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Well when ur on tge Jesus team ur on a winning team.I was saved at twelve years if age. I backslid a couple times but I thank the Lord he had his prayer warriors out there praying for me. Now I am on fire for God and will stay tge course till he comes back. It very well could be the Lord gently calling you into relationship with Himself now before the rapture. The Lord has promised in these
.last days to pour out His Spirit. Get a good Bible I recommend the kjv and go to a church where they preach from the Bible invite Him into your life and things will never be the same again. Because without Him u havv no hope here or eternally. God bless I will pray the Lord guides ur steps.
.last days to pour out His Spirit. Get a good Bible I recommend the kjv and go to a church where they preach from the Bible invite Him into your life and things will never be the same again. Because without Him u havv no hope here or eternally. God bless I will pray the Lord guides ur steps.
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Godsgirl, have you repented of each and every sin after becoming a Christian?
Do you never ever lie? never ever feel jealous, never ever get angry for no good reason?
I ask because by YOUR OWN judgement, if you sin at all, you go to hell. Your own, not Gods.
Do you really not see the wonderful gift of Christ? That all who are washed by his blood are clean?
Peter denied Jesus 3 times, and before this he had doubted many, many times. (Thus if he repented the first time, he still did sin again later by his disbelief) yet he was the founder of the church.
Do you never ever lie? never ever feel jealous, never ever get angry for no good reason?
I ask because by YOUR OWN judgement, if you sin at all, you go to hell. Your own, not Gods.
Do you really not see the wonderful gift of Christ? That all who are washed by his blood are clean?
Peter denied Jesus 3 times, and before this he had doubted many, many times. (Thus if he repented the first time, he still did sin again later by his disbelief) yet he was the founder of the church.
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Actually yes I do not want to hv any hidden secret sin so I do a daily inventory and confess and repent of it. The truly saved person will repent meaning ask forgiveness and turn away from not look for ways to justify their sin. They're main desire will be to serve god
Now if you can (and I can), why do you assume a gay person (note: a person having homosexual feelings) cannot?
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this is such an interesting thread. I am BRAND new here and although I am not here to debate anything (I am looking to find Christian discipleship and support) I just had to say something after reading all of this.
But first i need to clarify something: when i think of a christian, i think of a person who realizes that they are a sinner, that they need Jesus as a savior, that they have repented of their sins (meaning that they have decided to try and change), that they have accepted God's free gift of salvationthrough Jesus, and that they have made a decision to follow Jesus - his example and his commands, the primary one being to love God and to love each other the way Jesus did... so based on that definition I do not understand the first few comments made in this thread.
When I got saved I was born again but I did not immediately become perfect. I still struggled with alot of bad things in my life, and with the scars, habits, and consequences of my previous mistakes. Now while Jesus helped me through the Holy Spirit to get free of those over time, this was a long process, with many slip-ups along the way.
I personally have known alot of people who are good Christians but who struggle with homosexuality. They KNOW that it is a sin and so they do not practice it (they do not have relationships, they are single and celibat) and these people identify themselves as being gay christians. Maybe this is a vocabulary problem, or a problem with how we identify others.
But I know that just because a person has a feeling or a desire for something, that is not the sin itself. We are called to overcome temptation - but being tempted itself is not a sin. It is what you DO about it, and whether you have given control of your mind and thoughts over to God or not, that really counts. But these things take time, it is a process, and I think that we need to be gentle, patient, and understanding with the new christians who struggle with their sinful desires, no matter what they are.
At the end of the day, only God knows the heart, and only he knows the intentions and spirit of a person. He is the only one who can judge whether an individual belongs to him - we can't. We can look attheir life and tell them that their actions and choices do not reflect that they are walking with God, but as to if they are christians or saved or not, we can't. For all we know they are backsliding or just went through a trauma, we just can't know. That's why we shouldn't judge - because we just CANT know inside a person.
As far as whether or not a person can be actively participating in a homosexual relationship (such as a marriage) where sexual activity is ongoing, and still call themselves a Christian, that is a different situation. I think that the physical act of sodomy itself is a sin, and so continuing in that is not God's best will for anyone. Not stopping and repenting is not repenting, and that will naturally create a spiritual boundary between that person and God. I would say that a Christian in such a situation is either backsliding or is in denial about what God wants & expects from them. However, as we cannot know which situation it is, we should be open and not judgemental. After all, God loves us all and is always working in a person's life to break through those barriers, whether they are backsliding or just in denial.
But we are ALL sinners (even Christians) and no sin is greater than another, and homosexuality is NOT the unpardinable sin. So we need to be patient, forgiving and loving with each other, because love is the only cure for sin, and love is the only catalyst for truly changing. Judging never brought anyone into the kingdom in my opinion, so if we are going to condemn sin we need to be careful to still love the sinner.
just my opinion. thanks.
But first i need to clarify something: when i think of a christian, i think of a person who realizes that they are a sinner, that they need Jesus as a savior, that they have repented of their sins (meaning that they have decided to try and change), that they have accepted God's free gift of salvationthrough Jesus, and that they have made a decision to follow Jesus - his example and his commands, the primary one being to love God and to love each other the way Jesus did... so based on that definition I do not understand the first few comments made in this thread.
When I got saved I was born again but I did not immediately become perfect. I still struggled with alot of bad things in my life, and with the scars, habits, and consequences of my previous mistakes. Now while Jesus helped me through the Holy Spirit to get free of those over time, this was a long process, with many slip-ups along the way.
I personally have known alot of people who are good Christians but who struggle with homosexuality. They KNOW that it is a sin and so they do not practice it (they do not have relationships, they are single and celibat) and these people identify themselves as being gay christians. Maybe this is a vocabulary problem, or a problem with how we identify others.
But I know that just because a person has a feeling or a desire for something, that is not the sin itself. We are called to overcome temptation - but being tempted itself is not a sin. It is what you DO about it, and whether you have given control of your mind and thoughts over to God or not, that really counts. But these things take time, it is a process, and I think that we need to be gentle, patient, and understanding with the new christians who struggle with their sinful desires, no matter what they are.
At the end of the day, only God knows the heart, and only he knows the intentions and spirit of a person. He is the only one who can judge whether an individual belongs to him - we can't. We can look attheir life and tell them that their actions and choices do not reflect that they are walking with God, but as to if they are christians or saved or not, we can't. For all we know they are backsliding or just went through a trauma, we just can't know. That's why we shouldn't judge - because we just CANT know inside a person.
As far as whether or not a person can be actively participating in a homosexual relationship (such as a marriage) where sexual activity is ongoing, and still call themselves a Christian, that is a different situation. I think that the physical act of sodomy itself is a sin, and so continuing in that is not God's best will for anyone. Not stopping and repenting is not repenting, and that will naturally create a spiritual boundary between that person and God. I would say that a Christian in such a situation is either backsliding or is in denial about what God wants & expects from them. However, as we cannot know which situation it is, we should be open and not judgemental. After all, God loves us all and is always working in a person's life to break through those barriers, whether they are backsliding or just in denial.
But we are ALL sinners (even Christians) and no sin is greater than another, and homosexuality is NOT the unpardinable sin. So we need to be patient, forgiving and loving with each other, because love is the only cure for sin, and love is the only catalyst for truly changing. Judging never brought anyone into the kingdom in my opinion, so if we are going to condemn sin we need to be careful to still love the sinner.
just my opinion. thanks.
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this is such an interesting thread. I am BRAND new here and although I am not here to debate anything (I am looking to find Christian discipleship and support) I just had to say something after reading all of this.
But first i need to clarify something: when i think of a christian, i think of a person who realizes that they are a sinner, that they need Jesus as a savior, that they have repented of their sins (meaning that they have decided to try and change), that they have accepted God's free gift of salvationthrough Jesus, and that they have made a decision to follow Jesus - his example and his commands, the primary one being to love God and to love each other the way Jesus did... so based on that definition I do not understand the first few comments made in this thread.
When I got saved I was born again but I did not immediately become perfect. I still struggled with alot of bad things in my life, and with the scars, habits, and consequences of my previous mistakes. Now while Jesus helped me through the Holy Spirit to get free of those over time, this was a long process, with many slip-ups along the way.
I personally have known alot of people who are good Christians but who struggle with homosexuality. They KNOW that it is a sin and so they do not practice it (they do not have relationships, they are single and celibat) and these people identify themselves as being gay christians. Maybe this is a vocabulary problem, or a problem with how we identify others.
But I know that just because a person has a feeling or a desire for something, that is not the sin itself. We are called to overcome temptation - but being tempted itself is not a sin. It is what you DO about it, and whether you have given control of your mind and thoughts over to God or not, that really counts. But these things take time, it is a process, and I think that we need to be gentle, patient, and understanding with the new christians who struggle with their sinful desires, no matter what they are.
At the end of the day, only God knows the heart, and only he knows the intentions and spirit of a person. He is the only one who can judge whether an individual belongs to him - we can't. We can look attheir life and tell them that their actions and choices do not reflect that they are walking with God, but as to if they are christians or saved or not, we can't. For all we know they are backsliding or just went through a trauma, we just can't know. That's why we shouldn't judge - because we just CANT know inside a person.
As far as whether or not a person can be actively participating in a homosexual relationship (such as a marriage) where sexual activity is ongoing, and still call themselves a Christian, that is a different situation. I think that the physical act of sodomy itself is a sin, and so continuing in that is not God's best will for anyone. Not stopping and repenting is not repenting, and that will naturally create a spiritual boundary between that person and God. I would say that a Christian in such a situation is either backsliding or is in denial about what God wants & expects from them. However, as we cannot know which situation it is, we should be open and not judgemental. After all, God loves us all and is always working in a person's life to break through those barriers, whether they are backsliding or just in denial.
But we are ALL sinners (even Christians) and no sin is greater than another, and homosexuality is NOT the unpardinable sin. So we need to be patient, forgiving and loving with each other, because love is the only cure for sin, and love is the only catalyst for truly changing. Judging never brought anyone into the kingdom in my opinion, so if we are going to condemn sin we need to be careful to still love the sinner.
just my opinion. thanks.
But first i need to clarify something: when i think of a christian, i think of a person who realizes that they are a sinner, that they need Jesus as a savior, that they have repented of their sins (meaning that they have decided to try and change), that they have accepted God's free gift of salvationthrough Jesus, and that they have made a decision to follow Jesus - his example and his commands, the primary one being to love God and to love each other the way Jesus did... so based on that definition I do not understand the first few comments made in this thread.
When I got saved I was born again but I did not immediately become perfect. I still struggled with alot of bad things in my life, and with the scars, habits, and consequences of my previous mistakes. Now while Jesus helped me through the Holy Spirit to get free of those over time, this was a long process, with many slip-ups along the way.
I personally have known alot of people who are good Christians but who struggle with homosexuality. They KNOW that it is a sin and so they do not practice it (they do not have relationships, they are single and celibat) and these people identify themselves as being gay christians. Maybe this is a vocabulary problem, or a problem with how we identify others.
But I know that just because a person has a feeling or a desire for something, that is not the sin itself. We are called to overcome temptation - but being tempted itself is not a sin. It is what you DO about it, and whether you have given control of your mind and thoughts over to God or not, that really counts. But these things take time, it is a process, and I think that we need to be gentle, patient, and understanding with the new christians who struggle with their sinful desires, no matter what they are.
At the end of the day, only God knows the heart, and only he knows the intentions and spirit of a person. He is the only one who can judge whether an individual belongs to him - we can't. We can look attheir life and tell them that their actions and choices do not reflect that they are walking with God, but as to if they are christians or saved or not, we can't. For all we know they are backsliding or just went through a trauma, we just can't know. That's why we shouldn't judge - because we just CANT know inside a person.
As far as whether or not a person can be actively participating in a homosexual relationship (such as a marriage) where sexual activity is ongoing, and still call themselves a Christian, that is a different situation. I think that the physical act of sodomy itself is a sin, and so continuing in that is not God's best will for anyone. Not stopping and repenting is not repenting, and that will naturally create a spiritual boundary between that person and God. I would say that a Christian in such a situation is either backsliding or is in denial about what God wants & expects from them. However, as we cannot know which situation it is, we should be open and not judgemental. After all, God loves us all and is always working in a person's life to break through those barriers, whether they are backsliding or just in denial.
But we are ALL sinners (even Christians) and no sin is greater than another, and homosexuality is NOT the unpardinable sin. So we need to be patient, forgiving and loving with each other, because love is the only cure for sin, and love is the only catalyst for truly changing. Judging never brought anyone into the kingdom in my opinion, so if we are going to condemn sin we need to be careful to still love the sinner.
just my opinion. thanks.
Please. One more time ANY ANY ANY sin can be forgiven. IF IF IF one repents. The ones who call themselves Christians do not have the luxury of time to be goofing around and balking at Gods laws. Jesus even says I do not wish that any perish but that ALL would come to repentance! I endorse Pastor Ernie Sanders you can google him but u better hold onto ur seat