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LoveLight738

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Hi, My name is Chance. I am new to Christian chat forums. I honestly just need some support right now. I’m having a lot of problems with my faith. See, I have Autism, anxiety disorder, and a few other things. I’m not exactly a model Christian because of these things. In fact, I am literally crying over my faults. My main problem is, fear of God. Now, I know the Bible says we are supposed to have a fear of God but this is too much. I am literally at the brink of panic attacks just at hearing his name. I have this huge thing in my life. See, I know it’s not good to make excuses but honestly, if something intimidates me about a person in my life(threats, yelling, anger, etc)I just can’t feel much love for that person as I would. I have had this problem my whole life. I’m sure you can imagine how much God intimidates me then. To be told “be perfect or go to hell”. Which is basically the only thing that I get from the Gospel. All the love, acceptance, and forgiveness sounds great, but the fear of hell that I have is crippling. Every little thing I do I think is somehow a sin(I also have scrupulosity by the way). I can barely sleep, I can’t eat, I am just in constant fear. I also have an acute fear of public speaking. Especially about God for some reason. Spreading the Gospel sounds more like agony than love. I know we are supposed to have faith, love God, and Give our lives to him. So you can imagine how bad I feel with nothing but doubts, feeling condemned, and not being able to take the leap. To be honest, I feel scared about giving my life to Christ because I feel like I don’t have enough to offer him. I feel like there is just no hope. I have tried everything. Prayer, devotionals, counseling, medication, reading my Bible...everything I can think of. I just never feel “Good enough”. I can’t shake the fear. So my question is, does God only care about rules, obedience, and perfection, Or would God even consider taking a poor, cowardly, sinner like me. Does he still love me through my faults. Does God really care about how I am feeling? I feel almost no peace for days at a time and then and only after many seemingly unanswered prayers do I finally find some hope. For some reason God only shows me his love and peace in very small increments. I have even fasted for days at a time and read my Bible and prayed and begged God just for his love and even then I didn’t feel it as much as most people seem to. Most of the time I feel unloved and forsaken and I know it’s either a trick of Satan or a test of my faith but should I really feel this way all the time. Instead, it’s making me feel anxious and moody and depressed, which are all sins , which only gives me more guilt. The only time I ever feel peace is when I take medicine for anxiety. Does that mean that my faith isn’t real. Shouldn’t a real Christian feel at peace all the time. Isn’t God stronger than anxiety? I feel so confused and scared and new to this whole thing. And I have been a Christian for years now. The problem is, I fell away for a while but I never totally gave up. A while ago I had a revelation and came back to God and felt his love more than I ever did. But now I think, maybe it’s all in my Head. Maybe my faith isn’t real. Maybe I’m not even saved. I trust in Jesus. I try(pretty hard actually)to obey the commandments. I read my Bible(as much as I can in the state I’m in), I pray...I do a lot. Why do I still feel this way. Why’ve do I still doubt. I’m so worried I’m going to give my life to Christ, I’m going to try to follow him, I’m going to try to live perfectly, and in the end I will be told “Sorry, I never knew you” doesn’t God care about me and understand my weaknesses or does he only care about perfection? I just want to know that God cares about and understands my flaws but everything in the Bible kind of makes me think the opposite. It makes me think God is just a perfectionist who only cares about how perfect and obedient I am. Not about how much he loves us. I feel like Christianity is more of a Job than a relationship. I just want to love God with the passion I used to. Even the words in the Bible sound demanding and angry to me. what should I do, I’m running on fumes. I’m spiritually exhausted and ready to just give up. Please please help me!
 

Deade

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Welcome to CC Chance, I hope you'll enjoy your stay here. You say you've tried everything addressing this fear. I don't know if anyone here can give you the peace of mind you seek. Just keep seeking Jesus and learn God's word. Peace of mind will follow. :rolleyes:

 

stillness

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The good thing is when your fear of God becomes admiration worship as it's meant to be, you will become close to Him. "It's written, "Draw near to God and he will draw near to you." I had a wrong fear of God that a seducing spirit would draw me away from God and I would fall away. This was when I was 23, a 40 year journey in the wilderness ago. I was walking alone on a beautiful clear summer night, with this fear haunting me, and heard in my heart: Fear God, I lifted up my eyes, and could not help being in admiration of God, it was a beautiful starry night. Then a blanket of comfort of the Holy Spirit fell on me, there was weight to this blanket and I realised that having the rightful fear of God, could not be afraid of anything else. This is the only time I experienced the Holy Spirit as a heavy blanket, had many experiences and in the beginning felt I arrived and would not have any more trouble. Then cough on that having a taste of is goodness is a far cry from having overcome the world, by His Spirit. We can agree that the Lord will visit you and I encourage you to prepare your heart, the Lord is gentle and doesn't want you to be afraid with the kind of fear of man you have. When He visited His disciples after the Resurrection He told them "Fear not." He knows we are afraid of the supernatural. Around the same time I had the experience mentioned, I also experienced a healing infilling of the Holy Spirit that was so powerful that it scared me, even though I knew it was God when it happened. When I got scared it stopped, and then I regretted being scared. There is more I could say, much more and you should feel free to be in touch.
Your brother Ray
 

LoveLight738

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Thanks for the warm welcoming. To be honest, I don’t know either but I appreciate any input. Maybe your right, hopefully it will be something that will just come in time.
 

LoveLight738

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Thank you ray. I appreciate your input. Thank you for giving me hope. I appreciate your testimony. I guess I just still have a lot to learn but being here is already starting to help me, Thank you for your kindness.
 

stillness

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Dear sister, barely alive from the dead, so am I by the way.
Had only read the beginning of your page, when I responded and now just read the rest. I see your fear is the same as I had. I still had that fear after that experience, sadly I could not retain that blanket of God, I do believe I will have it again but permanently may not be in this life. My comment to you now is you need to see something straight about God. He did not come for the Righteous but for sinners, those who think they are good enough the way they are and wont come to Him for help are the ones He will not know as His own. Jesus is the Father I never had, I almost hear Him every day, He sais He is a Father to the fatherless and near the poor and broken hearted: You and I happen to qualify. It's an upside down Kingdom, God is pleased to take those things which are nothing to bring to nothing the things that are, it's written. trouble is we are slow learners, "Through much trouble we enter His Kingdom." I see your deliverance, but that is easy for me to say, eventually we have no trouble with Faith, as we have the evidence we need: our trouble is growing in His Love through suffering with Him. Let me know when you get healed.
 
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Ugly

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Hi, My name is Chance. I am new to Christian chat forums. I honestly just need some support right now. I’m having a lot of problems with my faith. See, I have Autism, anxiety disorder, and a few other things. I’m not exactly a model Christian because of these things. In fact, I am literally crying over my faults. My main problem is, fear of God. Now, I know the Bible says we are supposed to have a fear of God but this is too much. I am literally at the brink of panic attacks just at hearing his name. I have this huge thing in my life. See, I know it’s not good to make excuses but honestly, if something intimidates me about a person in my life(threats, yelling, anger, etc)I just can’t feel much love for that person as I would. I have had this problem my whole life.
I have anxiety. Quite a number of other Christians i've known have anxiety. Some had bipolar, depression (which i also have), OCD, ADHD and any number of other issues. I don't think any less of them as Christians for having a struggle.
And hell is not a threat. It is a warning. If you were walking and not paying attention to where you were going when you start to step out into traffic, then suddenly hear someone yell at you, warning you, would you be mad at them? Because that's, in essence, how you're perceiving God. Being upset at the one that warned you. What if you had headphones in and didn't hear that person, so they pushed you out of the way and got hit instead. Would you be upset with them? Feel less love? Because that's also what God did. The problem isn't the 'threat' of hell, the issue here is the way what you read is distorted into something it's not.

I’m sure you can imagine how much God intimidates me then. To be told “be perfect or go to hell”.
This is, in fact, false. And not at all what the bible teaches. People with your condition (scrupulosity) have very works based view of God, which is not biblical. God never requires perfection. Because He knows we can't obtain it while in these fleshly bodies. In fact the view you have is the complete opposite of what the bible Actually teaches. People often think doing good is what you're supposed to do after being saved. But the bible teaches on that is truly saved and seeking after God will have good works follow them as a natural product of their relationship with God.
Now this is not to say we should not Try to do good, we should. But, again, that should be a reflection of the work God does in our hearts, not to pacify a demanding God.


Which is basically the only thing that I get from the Gospel. All the love, acceptance, and forgiveness sounds great, but the fear of hell that I have is crippling. Every little thing I do I think is somehow a sin(I also have scrupulosity by the way). I can barely sleep, I can’t eat, I am just in constant fear. I also have an acute fear of public speaking (me too). Especially about God for some reason. Spreading the Gospel sounds more like agony than love.
I get that. As a teen i was even in a group that went around crack town and witnessed to people. It is scary to speak up. I didn't do it as much as most others in our group. But it's also important to remember not every Christian has the same calling. While, it's true, we are all called to be witnesses for our faith, generally speaking, perhaps your role is not that of evangelist. The bible talks about the church as a body, and in a body we have different body parts. Those parts each have a different purpose. A hand and a nose have very different purposes in the body. Perhaps your purpose is not to be overly focused on being a witness, but being called to aid within the church. That's how i feel.
I know we are supposed to have faith, love God, and Give our lives to him. So you can imagine how bad I feel with nothing but doubts, feeling condemned, and not being able to take the leap. To be honest, I feel scared about giving my life to Christ because I feel like I don’t have enough to offer him. I feel like there is just no hope. I have tried everything. Prayer, devotionals, counseling, medication, reading my Bible...everything I can think of. I just never feel “Good enough”. I can’t shake the fear. So my question is, does God only care about rules, obedience, and perfection, Or would God even consider taking a poor, cowardly, sinner like me. Does he still love me through my faults. Does God really care about how I am feeling?
It seems that a large bulk of your problems stem from the scrupulosity (have you been diagnosed or is that a self diagnosis?).
I dated a woman with OCD and she had many of the same problems you're talking about. One difficulty this seems to cause is it makes you almost unable to 'take hold' of what you read. You can know it. Repeat it. Understand it. But it's always in a way that is outside of you, and not internal. Because of this inability to internalize it trickles into other areas of your life and faith.


I feel almost no peace for days at a time and then and only after many seemingly unanswered prayers do I finally find some hope. For some reason God only shows me his love and peace in very small increments. I have even fasted for days at a time and read my Bible and prayed and begged God just for his love and even then I didn’t feel it as much as most people seem to. Most of the time I feel unloved and forsaken and I know it’s either a trick of Satan or a test of my faith but should I really feel this way all the time. Instead, it’s making me feel anxious and moody and depressed, which are all sins , which only gives me more guilt.
It's no surprise. Your basic understanding of God and the bible has proven to be flawed at the very base. If the foundation is weak you can't expect the rest to be strong. Your foundation is weak because you mispercieve God and the bible. You're not trusting in the God of the bible, but a twisted, lesser version, in your mind. Correct the wrong conclusions you have on God with biblical ones and it makes it easier for God to provide peace because you won't be working Against Him.
But some people will always have struggles. I, having depression and anxiety, have always struggled in ways others without those issues may not. I have had to accept that, and accept that i may not always line up with what i 'think' a Christian 'should' be. That's when i have to bypass what people say and remind myself what God's word says.


The only time I ever feel peace is when I take medicine for anxiety. Does that mean that my faith isn’t real. Shouldn’t a real Christian feel at peace all the time. Isn’t God stronger than anxiety? I feel so confused and scared and new to this whole thing. And I have been a Christian for years now. The problem is, I fell away for a while but I never totally gave up. A while ago I had a revelation and came back to God and felt his love more than I ever did. But now I think, maybe it’s all in my Head. Maybe my faith isn’t real. Maybe I’m not even saved. I trust in Jesus. I try(pretty hard actually)to obey the commandments. I read my Bible(as much as I can in the state I’m in), I pray...I do a lot. Why do I still feel this way. Why’ve do I still doubt.
Anxiety is an issue where the brain isn't functioning the way God designed it. The brain is a physical part of the body, just like liver, kidney, arms, legs, etc... would you tell a person 'you lack faith because a part of your body isn't working correctly'? If not then why do you do it to yourself?
Trying to obey the commandments. You never will. God knew that. They were put there to prove mans inability to save himself, not for a man to prove his worth or faith.
Who says doubting is a sin? When Thomas doubted Jesus resurrection did Jesus scold him? Nope. He told Thomas he was still blessed, just in a different way than those that didn't doubt. But Jesus did not speak poorly of him.
I went through a season of doubting my beliefs. I, like you, felt i wasn't seeing the fruit i felt i should, so i came to the conclusion my beliefs were no longer personal, but a facade i tried to live up to in front of others. I put that facade down, not in rebellion to God, but to rediscover what i believed. So it would be personal again, or maybe find i no longer believed. I, obviously, did determine God was truth. I have not regretted my doubt once. Because it helped me make God personal again. Without that doubt i would have just floated along as a fake.

I’m so worried I’m going to give my life to Christ, I’m going to try to follow him, I’m going to try to live perfectly, and in the end I will be told “Sorry, I never knew you” doesn’t God care about me and understand my weaknesses or does he only care about perfection? I just want to know that God cares about and understands my flaws but everything in the Bible kind of makes me think the opposite. It makes me think God is just a perfectionist who only cares about how perfect and obedient I am. Not about how much he loves us. I feel like Christianity is more of a Job than a relationship. I just want to love God with the passion I used to. Even the words in the Bible sound demanding and angry to me. what should I do, I’m running on fumes. I’m spiritually exhausted and ready to just give up. Please please help me!
Not a single person out of 7 billion are perfect right now. Not one. God didn't send Jesus for the perfect, but the ones needing perfection.
God is a perfectionist that only cares about perfect people? Really? Because God says 'your good works are as filthy rags to me'. Does that sound like God thinks of any of us as perfect?
Lets look at a few of the most famous people in the bible

Noah - In Genesis 9 Noah got completely smashed and fell asleep naked in his tent. His own adult children had to cover him up and when he woke up and saw this he went on an angry rant.
Moses - Was raised as a pagan prince when he murdered a guard for beating a slave. He ran away from the consequences of his actions and hid for many years. When God came to him and told him to go back home and free the slaves Moses Refused. He spent hours arguing with God. He had a million reasons why he couldn't do it, including having a stutter. Finally he compromised and agreed to go but let someone else speak for him.
Abraham - He was old, as was his wife, but God promised them a child. Abraham grew impatient waiting on God and had sex with a slave, thereby cheating on his wife (who gave him permission) and doing this in the name of God. He went on to be one of the founding fathers of the Jews, a bloodline that Jesus was eventually born through.
King David - Spied on a naked woman taking a bath, fell in 'love' (lust) with her and had her husband sent to the front line of war to be killed in battle so he could take her as his wife.
Peter - When Jesus walked out on the water, Peter wanted to follow, so Jesus called him out. While Peter was out there, walking on the water, he lost faith and started sinking. And Jesus let him drown for not being perfect... WRONG. Jesus reached out his hand and pulled him out.
Peter - When they came to take Jesus away for crucifixion Peter became violent, drew his sword and attacked one of the guards, cutting off his ear. Since, clearly it was not what Jesus wanted he stopped Peter from further violence and reattached the mans ear.
Peter - As Jesus hung on a cross, beaten and tortured, Peter denied he even knew Jesus. Three times. All these imperfections done by the same man that physically walked, ate with, studied under, witnessed and performed miracles, yet doubted, denied and became violent. And Jesus said 'this is the rock i build my church on' to him.
I already mentioned Thomas.
Jesus - Anxiety a sin huh? Well i guess that makes Jesus a sinner. Before his crucifixion Jesus was so fearful of what was about to happen he cried tears of blood (a real, medically valid condition). He asked God to not make him go through with it, even though he knew he had to.
And there more, that's just off the top of my head.
So, is God really this angry perfectionist demanding perfection, or have you misconstrued and inadvertently twisted the nature of God?
 
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joefizz

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Hi, My name is Chance. I am new to Christian chat forums. I honestly just need some support right now. I’m having a lot of problems with my faith. See, I have Autism, anxiety disorder, and a few other things. I’m not exactly a model Christian because of these things. In fact, I am literally crying over my faults. My main problem is, fear of God. Now, I know the Bible says we are supposed to have a fear of God but this is too much. I am literally at the brink of panic attacks just at hearing his name. I have this huge thing in my life. See, I know it’s not good to make excuses but honestly, if something intimidates me about a person in my life(threats, yelling, anger, etc)I just can’t feel much love for that person as I would. I have had this problem my whole life. I’m sure you can imagine how much God intimidates me then. To be told “be perfect or go to hell”. Which is basically the only thing that I get from the Gospel. All the love, acceptance, and forgiveness sounds great, but the fear of hell that I have is crippling. Every little thing I do I think is somehow a sin(I also have scrupulosity by the way). I can barely sleep, I can’t eat, I am just in constant fear. I also have an acute fear of public speaking. Especially about God for some reason. Spreading the Gospel sounds more like agony than love. I know we are supposed to have faith, love God, and Give our lives to him. So you can imagine how bad I feel with nothing but doubts, feeling condemned, and not being able to take the leap. To be honest, I feel scared about giving my life to Christ because I feel like I don’t have enough to offer him. I feel like there is just no hope. I have tried everything. Prayer, devotionals, counseling, medication, reading my Bible...everything I can think of. I just never feel “Good enough”. I can’t shake the fear. So my question is, does God only care about rules, obedience, and perfection, Or would God even consider taking a poor, cowardly, sinner like me. Does he still love me through my faults. Does God really care about how I am feeling? I feel almost no peace for days at a time and then and only after many seemingly unanswered prayers do I finally find some hope. For some reason God only shows me his love and peace in very small increments. I have even fasted for days at a time and read my Bible and prayed and begged God just for his love and even then I didn’t feel it as much as most people seem to. Most of the time I feel unloved and forsaken and I know it’s either a trick of Satan or a test of my faith but should I really feel this way all the time. Instead, it’s making me feel anxious and moody and depressed, which are all sins , which only gives me more guilt. The only time I ever feel peace is when I take medicine for anxiety. Does that mean that my faith isn’t real. Shouldn’t a real Christian feel at peace all the time. Isn’t God stronger than anxiety? I feel so confused and scared and new to this whole thing. And I have been a Christian for years now. The problem is, I fell away for a while but I never totally gave up. A while ago I had a revelation and came back to God and felt his love more than I ever did. But now I think, maybe it’s all in my Head. Maybe my faith isn’t real. Maybe I’m not even saved. I trust in Jesus. I try(pretty hard actually)to obey the commandments. I read my Bible(as much as I can in the state I’m in), I pray...I do a lot. Why do I still feel this way. Why’ve do I still doubt. I’m so worried I’m going to give my life to Christ, I’m going to try to follow him, I’m going to try to live perfectly, and in the end I will be told “Sorry, I never knew you” doesn’t God care about me and understand my weaknesses or does he only care about perfection? I just want to know that God cares about and understands my flaws but everything in the Bible kind of makes me think the opposite. It makes me think God is just a perfectionist who only cares about how perfect and obedient I am. Not about how much he loves us. I feel like Christianity is more of a Job than a relationship. I just want to love God with the passion I used to. Even the words in the Bible sound demanding and angry to me. what should I do, I’m running on fumes. I’m spiritually exhausted and ready to just give up. Please please help me!
Welcome here you can discuss with bible smart people and possibly make new friends,hope you like it here!
Also yes it is a lot to take in "fear of God is the beginning of wisdom" but this doesn't mean "questioning every single action you do" it means "keep God in mind" .
And you said you have "autism" so I'll be as "literal" as possible,"fearing God" actually means"Respecting God" and "acknowledging that he has Authority" as in when it seems you may be about to do something "questionable" or "right" take a moment to simply "think what God would want" out of "respect to him" and "wanting to do well for him" this doesn't necessarily apply to "every action".
 

blue_ladybug

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To the OP, paragraphs make it MUCH easier for us to read your post. I couldn't read it, it's just a very long wall of text. :(

Also, your op is better suited for the Family forum. :)
 
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NoNameMcgee

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it's not about what you have to offer...
or what you have done
or what you will do

we are saved by grace through faith

God can use any of us for good


1 John 5:4 - For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.
1 John 5:5 - Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?
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Revelation 3:21 - To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
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philippians

9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

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1 peter 1


3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,

5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.



praise God

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Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.


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romans 4

5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.

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if you believe on Jesus as your Lord and savior

by grace (not of yourself)
you will become a NEW creature

born again of incorruptible seed

when you are judged
you will be judged by the WHOLE law

and even 1 sin would mean you cannot make it into heaven

but if you have the imputed righteousness of Jesus
you will be seen as clean
and without blemish

this is what it means

"having not my own righteousness but that which is through faith in Christ the righteousness of God by faith"


if you ever need any help understanding any verse feel free to pm me


also

if you want a way to help you study the bible
pm me


God bless you


(all glory and thanks goes to Him... none to self)
 
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NoNameMcgee

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also...

what about spreading the gospel seems like a burden?

if public speaking is a weakness (as of now)

pray for growth

continue seeking God

learn more about Him

you can preach through simply planting seeds of truth

find peace in the promises of Jesus

when people see you walking in the spirit

in love
and patience
and long suffering but also joy

they may ASK you things

all you have to do is answer honestly

in time sharing His gospel will flow naturally

God can use you on the internet
or at work
or just in passing

if youre feeling discouraged

or Gods will seems like a burden

thats either the enemy or your flesh trying to make excuses

just be patient man

calm down

seek God
and have faith

...

and like i said

if there is anything specific that confuses you
id be willing to talk about it from a biblical perspective

please feel free to message me
 

LoveLight738

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Wow ugly! That was actually one of the most encouraging things I’ve ever read. Especially the thing about Jesus’s anxiety. That genuinely helped calm me down-a lot. Thank God for that. I really appreciate it. Maybe your right. Maybe it’s my view of God that is flawed. Thank you for this help so much.
 

LoveLight738

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Thank you all so much. You are all blessings because you have no idea how much this helps me. God bless you all!
 
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Ugly

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Wow ugly! That was actually one of the most encouraging things I’ve ever read. Especially the thing about Jesus’s anxiety. That genuinely helped calm me down-a lot. Thank God for that. I really appreciate it. Maybe your right. Maybe it’s my view of God that is flawed. Thank you for this help so much.
Don't thank me, that was God reaching out to you showing He loves you and IS listening and is with you.
 

AshleyNC

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Hi, welcome. I hope you find help, peace and friendship here. I am new myself and relate to a lot or what you said with being afraid to talk to people about God. I am chronically ill and disabled, and feel no one would want to hear about God from me.
A lot of your doubts are normal and I hope some people can answer most of your questions but you have to remember we can never be perfect. That is why Jesus died for us and our sins. It sounds like you are trying to do too much yourself, which I am guilty of at times. We need to learn to give it to God. When you really feel overwhelmed pray for the kind of peace that only he can give.
 

student

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Hello Chance! Welcome to CCF. I can say I understand...from a similar experience. Diagnosed with schizophrenia...I heard negative, condemning voices telling me a lot of junk that isn't true. God loves you. And me. and anyone reading this post...: ) . I knew that as a child but got a bit rebellious and life changed. i.e. I call it a 'diagnosis' because God heals us from sickness, he does not give us sickness...the devil does that. That's kind of another post someday....

Grace is grace for mistakes...not permission. But my favorite verse is from II Timothy 1:7 "God has not given us a spirit of fear [that is from Satan], but of power and of love and of a sound mind." You can put that to music to help remember it. I did. I sang it all the time. Satan had to leave finally...for the most part he stays gone. I watch for those lies and deceit now. The bible says 'Test the spirits". That's why...to be certain your thoughts and heart isn't persecuted by the enemy. No fear necessary. "Jesus" is the name. At the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow. Ours in gratitude...the enemy in damnable fear. Welcome, again. I hope this post blesses you. -student
 

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To explain why we are afraid of the power of God: until we are united in the Love of Christ, we have trouble receiving and giving unselfish Love; we are afraid of losing our life to find it in Him. Called to deny ourselves and pick up our cross daily and follow Him, and we cant but by His Spirit. The experience I had receiving His Spirit and being afraid of the power, thinking I would be harmed, than wishing I hadn't been afraid, realising I hadn't been overpowered. Jesus even said, "Nothing shall by any means harm you," to those who believe. We all suffer, whether with Him or in wrong choices, against Him. The suffering to get past ourselves does not harm us, as Jesus is the way and He is risen, so that even dying does not harm us. "He that is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with Him. Jesus will restore our life as He said, "Whoever will lose His Life for My Sake and My message will find it." "He came to deliver those who through fear of death were held their whole lifetime in bondage."
 

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Excuse me for assuming that Chance was a woman's name, it's correct that we should not assume anything. It's also written "Time and chance happens to them all." So ya the name is suitable for all. It's in the bible in the book of Ecclesiastes:
"I perceived that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, but time and chance happens to them all."
About recognising our opportunity, and laying hold of it in time.
Dear sister, barely alive from the dead, so am I by the way.
Had only read the beginning of your page, when I responded and now just read the rest. I see your fear is the same as I had. I still had that fear after that experience, sadly I could not retain that blanket of God, I do believe I will have it again but permanently may not be in this life. My comment to you now is you need to see something straight about God. He did not come for the Righteous but for sinners, those who think they are good enough the way they are and wont come to Him for help are the ones He will not know as His own. Jesus is the Father I never had, I almost hear Him every day, He sais He is a Father to the fatherless and near the poor and broken hearted: You and I happen to qualify. It's an upside down Kingdom, God is pleased to take those things which are nothing to bring to nothing the things that are, it's written. trouble is we are slow learners, "Through much trouble we enter His Kingdom." I see your deliverance, but that is easy for me to say, eventually we have no trouble with Faith, as we have the evidence we need: our trouble is growing in His Love through suffering with Him. Let me know when you get healed.