Transgender pain

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If you don't believe a transgender male is a valid male please don't comment I'm in pain and don't want my time wasted

I have been a Christian for 5 years been tortured by transgender pain since 5.
I hate God for ever being born. I love God for loving me while I curse him anyway.

I'm looking for prayers, if this was a right to die state I'd be in heaven with the Almighty God, Jesus, who will take away my tears.

I'm about to undergo 12 weeks of therapy in which I hope to convince my therapist that I have no quality of life, I'm so sickened by my female lie of a body. I want the therapist to then listen to my agony between being transgender and my hatred towards God for it
I can say that the Bible says that God created man in His image, male and female He created them.

And, there are differences between the Hebrew language and the English language.

In regard to pronouns that is.

Who or hoo means he.
He means she.

Just thought that you might want to know that.

If a person says he in Hebrew they mean she in English.
 

Roughsoul1991

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Oh, now you're bleeding? :rolleyes:

Your mind is unstable because you haven't given it to the Lord. God is actually a stabilizing factor. Your posts just screams "I have not given myself fully over to the Lord. but please feel sorry for me and let me get what I want instead of seeking the Lord's will. Because it's all about me and not God!" Hence why I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.


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May want to read about giving truth in love. Many Christians deal with mental illness why do they not have a stable mind? I agree healing comes when we surrender but you should feel sorry because God loves her and we should be comforting not in tolerance but in love and truth.
 
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Perhaps I was too blunt.

I am very imperfect.

To claim I'm perfect would be as equally untenable as claiming I'm a woman... both claims would be logically unsound.



Something More Gentle:
Here is an interview on this topic, with Dr. Douglas Groothuis, a very fine Christian philosopher.
He's a well-known scholar, and probably much gentler than I am.
: )




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Look
A good bra with support helps! :giggle:


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Look at how happy you responded with how much pain I'm in. Credibility zero
 

Roughsoul1991

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I can say that the Bible says that God created man in His image, male and female He created them.

And, there are differences between the Hebrew language and the English language.

In regard to pronouns that is.

Who or hoo means he.
He means she.

Just thought that you might want to know that.

If a person says he in Hebrew they mean she in English.
What is your point in saying this though?
 
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Oh, now you're bleeding? :rolleyes:

Your mind is unstable because you haven't given it to the Lord. God is actually a stabilizing factor. Your posts just screams "I have not given myself fully over to the Lord. but please feel sorry for me and let me get what I want instead of seeking the Lord's will. Because it's all about me and not God!" Hence why I don't feel the least bit sorry for you.


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"Oh now you're bleeding?" Yes gaslighter I am. It's called a metaphor and I know you know how those work. I'm being genuine you are not and haven't since the beginning of the conversation where you accused me of seeking pity instead of prayer.
 

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If my whole life isn't centered around God why would I be here on this site? Oh so now you're going to claim my pain isn't real. Well it is. Now what.

Sorry to hear that you're in pain Greyfray.

It's good to have you here. The bible tells us to bear one another's burdens (Galatians 6:2). Hopefully in some small way we'll help you to bear yours.

We live in a fallen world and many things can go wrong because it's a fallen world. The bible talks of a man born blind, I met a Christian lady who was born without arms, she learned to type with her feet and worked in a local government office. I don't doubt that your struggles are real and intense, but because they are less immediately obvious than the lady I mentioned above, some folks might struggle to understand or empathize with you. If you're trusting in God there's a good start. Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment, but again it's good to have you here. God Bless :)
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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May want to read about giving truth in love. Many Christians deal with mental illness why do they not have a stable mind? I agree healing comes when we surrender but you should feel sorry because God loves her and we should be comforting not in tolerance but in love and truth.
I don't know if she's really Christian. All I is see is an LGBTQ+ person trying to make Christians feel sorry her and be more lenient on their lifestyle. She's not seeking AT ALL to try to do things God's way as a real Christian would! She's constantly making herself out to be a victim of the circumstances God supposedly put her in.

Read over what she's been saying. It's all about "poor me, God is so mean to put me through this" and not even a show of submission to the Lord. There's not even any testimony about anything good God has done for her.

If you read in the Bible, God's people aren't always nice, especially when others are trying to corrupt God's people.


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Roughsoul1991

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I don't know if she's really Christian. All I is see is an LGBTQ+ person trying to make Christians feel sorry her and be more lenient on their lifestyle. She's not seeking AT ALL to try to do things God's way as a real Christian would! She's constantly making herself out to be a victim of the circumstances God supposedly put her in.

Read over what she's been saying. It's all about "poor me, God is so mean to put me through this" and not even a show of submission to the Lord. There's not even any testimony about anything good God has done for her.

If you read in the Bible, God's people aren't always nice, especially when others are trying to corrupt God's people.


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You have it wrong. God can judge her spiritual status. People have told her many biblical truths without falling for so called corruption and not reverting to your hostility. It helps no one. I'm thankful she is at least here trying to get help even if it may be ignored in the end.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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"Oh now you're bleeding?" Yes gaslighter I am. It's called a metaphor and I know you know how those work. I'm being genuine you are not and haven't since the beginning of the conversation where you accused me of seeking pity instead of prayer.

I already did pray for you. If you're truly a Christian submitting to the Lord, God will help you become the woman He made you to be and will not cave in to your wanting to be male.

Also, did it ever occur to you that the pain you're mentally experiencing is because of your sin and not because God is just being mean?

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Sorry to hear that you're in pain Greyfray.

It's good to have you here. The bible tells us to bear one another's burdens (Galatians 6:2). Hopefully in some small way we'll help you to bear yours.

We live in a fallen world and many things can go wrong because it's a fallen world. The bible talks of a man born blind, I met a Christian lady who was born without arms, she learned to type with her feet and worked in a local government office. I don't doubt that your struggles are real and intense, but because they are less immediately obvious than the lady I mentioned above, some folks might struggle to understand or empathize with you. If you're trusting in God there's a good start. Sorry I can't be of more help at the moment, but again it's good to have you here. God Bless :)

Your words are refreshing! Can I tell you that my trust in God is impacted because I have to trust the same one that allowed me to be born like this? Since 5! My relationship with God is so hard so much love hate going on, but my earthly relationship with God is ruined because of this unbearable affliction, please understand that I hate God because ever since my chest came in I've felt nothing but horror. Please take the genuineness of my puzzle to heart and pray for me because I'm 6 years of nothing but torture from being called girl and all the pain my body can bring, doing my absolute best to even stomach praising God. I have an lgbt church I have a home in and I can't go because praise turns to ash in my mouth! Pray for me
 
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I already did pray for you. If you're truly a Christian submitting to the Lord, God will help you become the woman He made you to be and will not cave in to your wanting to be male.

Also, did it ever occur to you that the pain you're mentally experiencing is because of your sin and not because God is just being mean?

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For example, being called girl. It hurts me to be called girl she ect. If my pain, that is real to me, regardless of it being real to you, is out of my control: how am I sinning. If you get hit with something, and it hurts, is that a sin?
 

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I am going to pray for God to deliver you from your torment and to address your dire needs. God will not hold the cursing towards him as he is a compassionate and merciful God who fully understands the human condition.

Hopefully, you will find comfort, support, and understanding from the members of this site.

Glad to have you as part of our community. Welcome to CC.
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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You have it wrong. God can judge her spiritual status. People have told her many biblical truths without falling for so called corruption and not reverting to your hostility. It helps no one. I'm thankful she is at least here trying to get help even if it may be ignored in the end.

She hasn't accepted any of those biblical truths so far though like a Christian is suppose to so I don't really think she's here for that. And do you really think this will only happen once and with just her? The LGBTQ+ will keeping battering the church little by little until their lifestyle becomes acceptable to us. Other LGBTQ+ folk have already come here before and they'll be here after her as well, always in the most egregious situation that supposedly God has put them in to provoke pity. :rolleyes:

If you want to be nice to her fine, I'm not stopping you, but I will be blunt and rude because that's what she needs as well. Something tells me that no one in her immediate life is telling her what's what.


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There is no sin attached from the pain of being hurt.
She hasn't accepted any of those biblical truths so far though like a Christian is suppose to so I don't really think she's here for that. And do you really think this will only happen once and with just her? The LGBTQ+ will keeping battering the church little by little until their lifestyle becomes acceptable to us. Other LGBTQ+ folk have already come here before and they'll be here after her as well, always in the most egregious situation that supposedly God has put them in to provoke pity. :rolleyes:

If you want to be nice to her fine, I'm not stopping you, but I will be blunt and rude because that's what she needs as well. Something tells me that no one in her immediate life is telling her what's what.


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Sounds like the true teachings of Jesus, your plan- to be rude instead of pray for your enemy
 

2ndTimeIsTheCharm

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Sounds like the true teachings of Jesus, your plan- to be rude instead of pray for your enemy

Fortunately, shaming doesn't work on me. I'm not a people-pleaser. :giggle:

But I did pray for you. God will heal you if you completely submit to Him to become the godly Christian woman He wants you to be. He will either heal your pain or help you rise above it. If not, it won't be because God couldn't help you, it's because you want and love your way and not His.


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Roughsoul1991

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She hasn't accepted any of those biblical truths so far though like a Christian is suppose to so I don't really think she's here for that. And do you really think this will only happen once and with just her? The LGBTQ+ will keeping battering the church little by little until their lifestyle becomes acceptable to us. Other LGBTQ+ folk have already come here before and they'll be here after her as well, always in the most egregious situation that supposedly God has put them in to provoke pity. :rolleyes:

If you want to be nice to her fine, I'm not stopping you, but I will be blunt and rude because that's what she needs as well. Something tells me that no one in her immediate life is telling her what's what.


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I'm trying to understand how your words are any different than what others have said except they could say it without being rude.

You act like no one else has said what you have said.

We should have pity for the lost, broken hearted and those in suffering. That doesn't mean we have to tolerate or accept sin. Literally no Christian here is accepting transgender as not sinful.