Are Roman Catholics Christians

But I just googled it and the correct way to say it is wi-fi.
So in my defense...wify looks like wifey misspelled.
But I'm still too dumb for conversation. Really and truly.

Election and predestination are Biblical truths, weather anyone believes them or not. We are either chosen for eternal life in paradise or eternal torment in hell. Nobody has a say in the matter, it's all according to Gods choice and will. This is what the Bible clearly teaches and nobody can deny it, without denying the truth.

M....,

Not scriptural.

Why Christ on the Cross/
Why forgiveness of sin?
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Let me remind you why Christ had to die on the cross. It was to pay for the sins of those He came to save. Read the Bible

Christ died that all men might have forgiveness of their sins. It is men who do not want forgiveness that leads to their eternal condemnation not any inadequacy in the blood sacrifice of Christ.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Verses 19-20 are real important.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Let me remind you why Christ had to die on the cross. It was to pay for the sins of those He came to save. Read the Bible

As a Calvinist I believe in the absolute sovereignty of God over all things. That includes all things, including everything that happens in the universe. We believe everything is predestined and we are passengers on the journey. As you can see we take His sovereignty literally

M....,

LOL...Mark thanks for the heads up !!

You are avoiding the pointed question; ...if there is predetermination by G-d why preps for forgiveness ,etc...is what I asked? Would Christ need be giving His life on the cross?
Need there be forgiveness?
Need there be a white throne judgment?
etc?
Your position must fit scriptures.....and it doesn't.

Gods sovereignty is not threatened by mans volition. In the garden when Adam sinned Adam received the knowledge of good and evil. It is this knowledge that compels man to choose.

When you came to Christ were you under Holy Spirit conviction about your sin? John 16:8-11.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Read the Bible, God doesn't wink at sin. Sin had to be paid for in full, before anyone could be forgiven, God is just. He

This a very difficult topic, God is so awesome that we can never quite understand everything about Him. So a lot of thins will remain mysterious to us and I believe His sovereignty is one of those attributes that we can't fully grasp the magnitude of it.

Thankfully God didn't make His commandments complicated, He has given us simple instructions to live by so all we need to do is trust Him in everything He does.

There are many scriptures which point to the fact that God knows all things from the beginning to the end, our difficulty is trying to put that into a perspective of how deep it goes. I believe it's has no limit, including knowing who will be saved and who will not, He knew this before we were craeted.

I'm not only picking on the Roman Catholic Church I should have mentioned that. The vast majority of "Christian Churches" have a man centered foundation. Their confession is not based on a sound Biblical foundation, the Seventh Day Adventist Church believes that Jesus was created and many other popular Churches have unbiblical beliefs.
Sadly I would say the number of Churches that preach the Word of God faithfully is relatively small

As a Calvinist I believe in the absolute sovereignty of God over all things. That includes all things, including everything that happens in the universe. We believe everything is predestined and we are passengers on the journey. As you can see we take His sovereignty literally

Honestly, I don't see how anyone can champion any party. They're all crooked and bent for self. Both parties are ridiculous and filled with arrogant men and women who think they have a right to more and more of the sweat of our brows. Our government is a ravenous beast grown too big to control or police. All that rhetoric from both sides designed to get or keep the power of the party by dividing the men on whose backs the whole structure rests and is held up is nonsense. And we fall for it. I refuse to involve myself in that stupid division game. If you ever hear ANY sort of talking point coming out of my mouth, you have my permission to slap it or stick a parrot cracker in it.

S...,

It got that way because of so many NOT participating.
Are you suggesting more bow out..surely not?

S...,

It got that way because of so many NOT participating.
Are you suggesting more bow out..surely not?

Yes but how did you get saved? Did you just wake up one day and decide you were elect or did you seek Christ broken and desperate for forgiveness of your burden of sin?

Calvinists concern me if they do not have a clear testimony regarding how they were saved. It is not an intellectual decision and God does not make the decision for you. God makes provision for men to be saved but God does not make a man get saved against his will.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

In other words, you have no free will, can't think for yourself, can't really choose to do anything at all, you're only doing what God predetermined you would do. You're a pre-programmed robot, a mindless puppet predestined for whatever God hath decreed.

If I felt that way, I'd shoot myself.

I believe we are exactly what God created us to be. You believe God created you without any clue as to what you are, like He just created a mysterious creature.

You believe in a god who has no control over anything, he's weak and impotent god who hopes you might believe in him so he can save you. He's hiding somewhere and and worried sick that you will make the wrong choice and end up in the lake of fire. I really feel sorry for your weak little god.

The God of the Holy bible is an all knowing, all powerful, all mighty, infinitely wise, infinitely intelligent, knows all thing from the beginning to the end and the biggest shock for those who believe in the little weak god is He actually knows who His elect are. He's not surprised by anything, because He knows everything remember.

The biggest problem for the predestination deniers is, their god is just unable to do what he would like to do. He's at the mercy of those he created, he has lost all control over his creation.

So you believe, what kind of food you eat today is predetermined by God, if you kill today or make other sin is predetermined by God? If one decide not believe in Jesus is predetermined by God?