How did the giants survive a global flood?

One way.. through the faith of God, not seen. In respect to the exclusive source of faith, his living word . One faith as a work .that he works in us to both will and do His good pleasure.

Scripture is the exclusive source for seeing that not seen . We do not wrestles against the things seen. All scripture is God breathed revealing the will of Him not seen . That portion in genesis 6 is simply informing us men as Sons of God The believers were being unevenly yoked with daughters of men and the possibility of the seed of Christ being passed down was jeopardized . God simply cleaned the plate to start anew ,

Make me wonder when He does come on the last day will he find His faith working in the heart of man? Or will it be like in the time of Noah when every man did what was evil follow after the imagination of their heart as business as usual He will come as a thief in the night. Perhaps he will find faith .

Hey! Nauga... PTL


True. It is conjecture, but not without some guidance by the scriptures. For example; take our gene pool or the DNA of all fertile people: is under the scripture's description concerning corruption. Rom 8:211 "Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." Our gene pool like all the rest of the natural creation is subject to corruption or what science calls: the 2nd law of thermodynamics, which basically states that everything decays. Now, nowhere in the scriptures does it say that angels are the sons of God! But in Lu 3:38 we see: "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God." Who else in all of the scriptures was made in the Lord's image and after his likeness? And in Rom 8:19, we see all of Christendom being referenced as the sons of God: "For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God." I won't post it all, but Rom 1 lets us know that at no time has the Lord called any angel a son, rather, they are all ministering spirits that serve the heirs of salvation. Jesus revealed the error of the Sadducees, when he let us know in Matt 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."

I'm sorry, but I find it preposterous that any beings were 3000 x 1.43 meters or 4.69 feet = 14,070 feet tall. The Statue of Liberty is 305 feet tall and a mile is 5280 feet. Can you imagine the fossils?

Hey! Ahwatukee...
Sorry I missed the question; If the sons of God were descendants of Adam and Eve from before their fall, then they, like Eve were not to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Their DNA would have been in a pristine non-fallen condition, not subject to the curse of death that was given to Adam and Eve and scriptures show no daughters of God that found the sons of men to be fair. So if Adam was made in the Lord's image and is called a son of God in the genealogies, it can't be much of a surprise that his un fallen sons should be likewise called the sons of God.

While parables are kewl, it is written in John 16:25 that "...These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. " So for simplicity's' sake, are saying that your one source for the word of God is the Bible?

The reason I ask is the reference to the Bible as the 'living word' began after the term 'living Constitution' was coined to describe the U.S. Constitution. Since the term 'living' was used to describe the U.S. Constitution as having the characteristics of an animate being in the sense that it changes. While it the might sound good, the 'living word' it like saying that the truth is ever changing so the living word changes with it.

Since words can be truthful or they can be deceptive, one could consider a lie to be a living word since it is always changing to avoid the truth. But I won't to assume that you are suggesting that the eternal God or the truth changes. However, since faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, then one can see in the written scriptures that Jesus said "Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."

Easy the fallen angels once again gained access to the daughters of men and had Children with them..

Even in the very verse you quote it says and the important part i will bold and underline..

Genesis 6: KJV
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

While Genesis 6:4 is referring unto larger sized humans referred unto as giants being present before daughters were born, and also after that.

So is any angel who is present on earth considered a fallen angel? I know the angel that appeared unto Mohummad is considered to be a fallen angel by a lot of Christians, but then again wouldn't any angel in this world have fallen from the eternal kingdom of God which is not of this world? So I take it that if those angels could be cast out of the eternal kingdom of God then anyone can lose their salvation.

Hmmmm How did the bible find its way back to Earth? God took Jesus up in a cloud, in front of many people.

The fact that our finite minds find some things preposterous, or unimaginable does not have any impact on what is true or real...I cannot imagine a "man" that tall either but the Book of Enoch said it was so....and I do trust that book. I mean...If that book was lies, why would the bible quote it?

Yiiikes @ book of Enoch!!!

That could just mean that the giants didn't marry the daughters of men, until much later... In the genealogies, many didn't have children until after more than a 100 years and more.

I see that a little differently

Proverbs is the a same Greek word used for parable .Without parables/proverbs the Holy Spirit spoke not throughout all of prophecy the word of God s the signified language of God .

Today we have the perfect law of God as His living abiding word. No longer do we know his will in part.

We are warned not to go above that which is written the one source of Christian faith.

That perfect law and not a collection of philosophical theories of men as the wisdom of this world, But rather that which can and does quicken our soul giving us simply ones. His unseen understanding is found in the hidden meaning of parables also call the hidden manna, the word manna simply meaning …"what is it" as something we are not familiar with The Son of man Jesus was not asked in respect to His name or unseen authority in regard to the Son of man, seen .

salm 19:7The law of the Lord is perfect, "converting the soul": the testimony of the Lord is sure, "making wise the simple".

Looking at Luke 9:44-55 to aid in understanding of john 16:25 . Whenever Jesus as the Son of man, seen, would present a parable/proverb he would hide the spiritual understanding and rather than asking him the meaning .The apostles when confused to the meaning played "who is the greatest" reasoning by the wisdom of men all these things were done in parables without the spiritual meaning applied Mark 4:1)

Three times with three representing the end of the matter the Son of man presented the parable, all three time they looked to the interpretation of men, again as to "who is the greatest" (walking by sight). The Son of man continuing to give glory unto God unseen did not receive the glory and said only God is good, And in the end of the manner (verse 55) ...rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, (and have no understanding) but I shall shew you plainly of the Father. At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:John16: 24-26

Again Christ as the Son of man as that seen would not jeopardize the law of faith, hearing God through the scriptures but gave glory to Him un-seen reckonned as the father .

John 16:7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

The law of faith is again is shown in John 6:.....taking away the authority of one seen the Son of man, Jesus, the temporal .The eternal father not seen is given the honor as the good master. One master as our teacher comforter and guide who also brings to our mind the things he is teaches us .

It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. John 6:45

That is how I see the verse you offered... God not seen defending the unseen glory of the father by the representative temporal glory the Son of man

The living word is the watchful eye of him in whom we abide in as He teaches us . Interestingly, It can be seen working out in Jeramiah 1 to both will and perform the good pleasure of God (imputed righteousness) This when he was first called out the Holy Spirit... watching to see if man adds or substracts from the hidden meanings of His signified language

The words of Jeremiah the son of Hilkiah, of the priests that were in Anathoth in the land of Benjamin:To whom the word of the Lord came in the days of Josiah the son of Amon king of Judah, in the thirteenth year of his reign.It came also in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the end of the eleventh year of Zedekiah the son of Josiah king of Judah, unto the carrying away of Jerusalem captive in the fifth month.Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.Then said I, Ah, Lord God! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child. But the Lord said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak. Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee (Emanuel) to deliver thee, saith the Lord. Then the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant. Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Jeremiah, what seest thou? And I said, I see a rod of an almond tree.Then said the Lord unto me, Thou hast well seen: for I will hasten my word to perform it.Jer.1:1-12

Searching out the meaning of the metaphor the rod of a almond tree used in parable is another matter

No Human females where existing before the fallen angels came down and had children by them.. It is clear that the same thing happened later and the destruction of the latter giants was carried out by the Hebrews when they completed the Exodus and invaded Canaan.. David killed one of them himself..


No.. Some come as Messengers of God.. The Angel Gabriel is such an angle.. The fallen ones left their ""first estate" and came down to live here, they rebelled against God..

Jude 1: KJV
6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

So these fallen Angels are now in hell but will be released for a short time as a judgement upon humanity at the time of the judgement of the great day called the day of the LORD::

Revelation 9: KJV
1 "And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. {2} And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. {3} And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power."

The leader of this army that comes out of the bottomless pit is a fallen angel.. Abaddon

Revelation 9: KJV
11 "And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

Yes that's what i believe also.. You can probably add the founder of the Mormon religion to that list also..

No as i said some Angels are sent by God..

Well Angels are not under the same system of salvation that we humans are under.. Angels being with God, in His very presence do not have access to the covering of the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ as far as the Bible shows.. Humans where created lower then Angels so the standards we are under are also lower then the standards Angels are judged by..

Human salvation well that is another topic that is discussed in here.. I am not a supporter of the O,S,A,S doctrine.. So i am probably in a minority in this forum where that is concerned.. I believe the no third party can cause us to lose our salvation. But i believe that we can cast our own salvation away by ceasing to believe Jesus and by no longer trusting in the Atonement of the LORD Jesus Christ..

Well, not everybody has the faith to pluck out an eye, but if mine eye should offend me I wouldn't hesitate to pluck it out, yet not everyone walks by faith and not by sight either, so I don't see happening. But then again, if it is better to enter the kingdom of God with one eye than to be cast into hell with two eyes, which could be the reason that unless a person is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.

While a pretty lengthy reply just to say the LORD, since the word comes from the LORD yet is not the LORD. Besides, the LORD gives his word to men, whom receive his word by telling others who can received the LORD by receiving this words from those who they hear them from, its called the parable of the sower.

How? By Hebrews 6:1-2?

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Hebrews 6:1

So in order to leave the principles of the doctrine of Christ, one must at least know what a principle is in order to leave the principles right? So if one knows the doctrine of Jesus then they should be aware of the principles of Christ.

Sorry but that doesn't even make sense.

It is my opinion that the Bible is very clear how the giants again came to be on the Earth after the flood.
It is clear that the Earth was cleansed by the flood and all the giants were killed. It is also clear that all those on the ark were pure blooded human because if they were not, the Bible wouldn't say the earth had been cleansed.
Those who are familiar with scripture will know that the angels that came and mated with women of men were bond and chained til the last day. And because of that many think there was not another incursion. Yet Satan wasn't bound and there were many more fallen angels than the 200 that did the dirty deed. It is written that the stars represent the number of angels and a third fell.
There were Giants in the Earth in those days, and after (this tells you when the giants were on earth) when the sons of God came into the daughters of men. <That tells you how they got here before....and after. It is simply stated and the words define themselves. There obviously were some more angels that lusted after the women of men.

As for the sizes of the giants. The Earth was different before the flood. Everything was bigger and healthier. Even men but they were not gigantic. Not even nearly as big as Goliath who is called just a big man. Apparently that person has no idea just how big a 12 footer is. That is definitely worthy of being called a giant. But lets use the dinosaurs to show how the Earths environment was such that it could support very large giants then and not now. It is common knowledge that a full grown dinosaur could not breath today. The nostrils are simply not large enough to flow enough oxygen to support the giant body mass. Yet one could live today if one was born, it just would not grow to be the size they were before the flood.

All ancient lifeforms found from pre flood are larger and healthier. Dragon flies with 6' wing spans. Beavers the size of sheep and so on and so on.

When the incursion of an angel or angels happened after the flood, Nephilim were again born on earth. The Earth just doesn't support the giant sizes they were pre-flood. Yet they still got pretty big and they were very powerful. Strong. There are 100's of newspaper articles here in the U.S. describing the giants they were finding in the burial mounds all over the country. Not to mention the ones found just buried. The vary in sizes from 9-12 feet being the most common. Yet many were found that were 20' plus and one 35 footer. Personally I think the 35 footer was a pre flood remains but if you listen to the Indians folklore their ancestors had to live with these red headed powerful beings that ate people. They say they were so big they could run down a buffalo and scoop it up in one hand. While still running rip a leg off and start munching it like we would a drumstick. And that all happen in the not so distant past. We know how long the Natives have been here. So that was definitely long after the flood.

The promised land was full of them according to scripture and they were like grasshoppers in their own sight next to them. So that would appear to say they were 20 to 30 feet tall and they were scared of them they were so big. Even having God on their side the mere sight of them was horrifying. Lol. That lack of faith cost them plenty but anyways.

So it is obvious to me how the got here after the flood and it should also be obvious to anyone that studies scripture... that we are not alone and it is not so hard imagine that other angels broke that rule. They are evil, no?

But even more important is the verse by Jesus how it will be when He returns.

As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the Son of man.

They will be again ruling the world in the last days.

The principles are the word of God and not that as the things of men .(private interpretations)

No we have the perfect law because God is no longer brining any new revelations to add to his book of prophecy,
the Bible .
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Do you need more as a source of Christ's faith other than that is written in the law and prophets.?

Three kinds of angels.

(1) Administering spirits sent by God as Sons of God led by the Spirit of God as those who left not their first place of habitation .No DNA, no procreation... not created from the dust of the field

(2) Demons as the same kind of angels yet not led by the Spirit of God as those who did leave their first place of habitation. No DNA, no procreation not created from the dust of the field .

(3) Those called men as Sons of God born again of the Spirit of God (new creation) as angels messenger sent to bring the gospel of Christ. They have DNA making it possible to procreate . Born again Sons of God led by the Spirit of God are shown below. In that way the members of this board (Christian Chat) can be considered angels led by the Spirit to bring the word of God .

2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares .Hebrew 13:2

The portion of scripture has to with men and woman as that seen .No reference to angels not seen . Angels that have no Dna cannot re create them self giving them DNA.

The Genesis 6 portion of scriptures is simply showing the born again believers men as Sons of men were being unevenly yoked with daughters of men a term that speaks of thos unconverted.

Good Hollywood stuff with the special effects people that know how to use their imaginations .But nothing to do with scripture.

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, "intruding into those things" which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,Colossians 2:18

Not one mention of a angel not seen

And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,(men)
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them,(men) the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. Geneisis 6:1_7

The reference had to do with a innumerable amount. Not physical size. They were smaller than a Camel (head and body length ...7 ft 6 in–11 ft 5 in. which are shorter than a Giraffe They came as a hoard of locust devouring every thing in their path .

udges 6:5 For they came up with their cattle and their tents, (no angels) and they came as grasshoppers "for multitude"; for both they and their camels were without number: and they entered into the land to destroy it.

If a person uses their imgananation then it could make great Hollywood special effect material .(we walk by faith not by sight)

Colossians 2:18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

Only 8 people survived during the flood, but as we can see today there are people of all sorts, very tall/ big people, midgets, black, white...etc So its obvious that the 8 people in the ark carried the DNA, meaning if there where giants before the flood there could have perfectly been giants after... right?

Then again the interpretation of a global food of waters could be erroneous and therefore those men referred unto as giants that existed after the 'flood' were decendants of that tribe which existed before the flood.

I am not sure what makes the rainbow people think that has anything to do with the flood recorded in the Bible except maybe for reasons cited in Ps 89:44, or because he that comes to God must believe he is, so they think they are. Seeing that it is written that the LORD said when he looked upon the bow in the cloud, or course you can see a rainbow from above the earth, but you can see the cloud that covers the earth like a garment (Job 38:9) which was formed by the waters which covered the earth in Genesis 1:2.

• The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD's throne is in heaven: Ps 11:4
• The LORD sitteth upon the flood; yea, the LORD sitteth King for ever.Ps 29:10

So if all DNA came from those 8 people on the Ark, then all the DNA from those 8 people would have came from the genes of one set of progenitors. Of course, the female would have had the same genes as the male since was made from the genetic material of the male, so we see that we would have all the genes for all the population within our DNA, but genetics tells us we don't. So if we don't then have all these genes written within our DNA the only other explanation would be the genetic mutation of evolution, which in the mind of the King of Great didn't violate the scriptures of Genesis and now it is taught in the schools around the world.

Then using that type of logic maybe the white race originated from Canaan since it appears that a black couple can have a white baby but a white couple cannot produce a black baby so the sons of Noah would have been liken to him and their mother.

https://nypost.com/2010/07/21/blond-bombshell/

However, I am suggesting that the scriptures actually reveal that the LORD made more than one man in the beginning, and that they are being referred unto as the sons of God in Genesis 6.

the Bible does not give us a reason as to how giants lived after the flood. only tells us they did. Now many will suggest and give theory, but the truth is the word of God does not tell how giants became after the flood.