How did the giants survive a global flood?

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theanointedsinner

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Although prophecy does say waters/flood refers to people, that is not the case in Noah's flood. It was a literal flood of water.


Assumption. Gen. 2:5, 6 describe a fog that God used to water the earth before any rain. But that was still very early in the creation process. People also assume that people ate only fruit, because God gave them fruit for meat (which just translates to food). I believe God also instructed Adam on which animals he could use for food. We are first given reference to clean creatures in Gen. 7:2 when Noah was gathering animals for the ark. Obviously, that had already been their custom. There were fresh-water rivers then (see Gen. 2:10).

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for Genesis about water, before it rained, there were rivers to supply water regularly to crops, what would heaven be like? Is it true that there's no rainy days in heaven, that there's always sunny days, perfect temperature with rivers in heaven?
 

jb

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There were giants in the earth in those days;
Genesis 6:4

So if there were giants living amongst men before the 'flood' then how does one reconcile the scriptural accounts of giants after the flood, for example in 2 Sam 21:20 of “a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.”
Did a blog on this, you can find it Here
 

posthuman

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posthuman

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believing the text when it says all flesh on the face of the earth was destroyed in the flood that wasn't preserved on the ark ((re: Genesis 6:17)), there are two simple possibilities:

if the giantism spoken of is genetic, someone on the ark carried the genes. we assume Noah was not carrying these genes, but we don't know anything about the wives of Noah and his sons. there's our possibility.

if the giantism spoken of is artificial, then the cause of it before the flood could have occurred again later at any time.

so does the Bible speak of it as though it's carried down through generations, or as though it's a result of willful biological experimentation and alteration?
 

wolfwint

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There were giants in the earth in those days;
Genesis 6:4

So if there were giants living amongst men before the 'flood' then how does one reconcile the scriptural accounts of giants after the flood, for example in 2 Sam 21:20 of “a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.”
The same you can say from the pygmies of africa. They all came from Noah and his 3 sons Sem, Ham and Japhet. Maby we underestimate the genetic pool of us humans.
 

garee

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Hello glf1,

Why would you not be surprised if Adam and Eve's offspring were all male. That would make no sense. But regardless of this, we have the following scripture which is before the fall and which demonstrates that daughters were also being born:

"Now when men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they took as wives whomever they chose.
They went after what the eye beholds lusting after the flesh (beautiful) and not what the Spirit of Christ requires a believing heart .Sons of God are those led by the Holy Spirit (believers)

Daughters of men describe natural unconverted mankind . Not daughters of angels.... who first of all do not marry, and secondly they have no DNA needed to multiply .

The Jew were simply being unevenly yoked violating the law of the spiritual seed, the generation of Christ, that was passed down until the Son of man Jesus was born .
 

jaybird88

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Noah was the only one without blemish. the scripture says nothing of the daughter in laws of Noahs wife. the corruption (i think the corruption was in the blood) could have came from there.
I HATE THIS STUPID EDIT TIME LIMIT WE HAVE!!!!!!!

this:
daughter in laws of Noahs wife
should be:
daughter in laws OR Noahs wife.
 
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pjharrison

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pjharrison

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Something really bad had to have happened for God to destroy the whole earth. The skeletons are not what I am talking about.
 

posthuman

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the technical term is "face pareidolia"

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PennEd

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Your Gen 6:4 is incomplete.

Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown.

So, your question is technically answered by a better reading.

There are several possibilities:

a) sons of God were again somehow influencing middle east after the flood - thats why Israel was commanded to kill them all without mercy.

b) willful cultivation, like some special clan being cultivated to be a clan of giant warriors for centuries.

c) some "random" genetic mutation in some clan making people to grow extraordinary big.

c) "giant" does not necessarily have to mean "giant body", it was quite a common term for somebody being excellent, powerful and famous (kings, rulers, famous warriors, half-gods etc).

Option A does the least violence to the actual text. People seem to HATE the idea that fallen angelic beings took on the form of men and mated with human women to produce a hybrid, demonic race.

Tares planted by the devil comes to mind. There is something genetic going on I believe.
 

Lifetrack

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There were giants in the earth in those days;
Genesis 6:4

So if there were giants living amongst men before the 'flood' then how does one reconcile the scriptural accounts of giants after the flood, for example in 2 Sam 21:20 of “a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.”
They could keep their heads above water ;-)
 
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theanointedsinner

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I think the giants breathed in a lot of air, and they hanged on to trees, or were able to climb to the highest mountain, and those might have helped, and they might have developed filters from plants to breathe those waters

I'm just speculating
 

shrume

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I think the giants breathed in a lot of air, and they hanged on to trees, or were able to climb to the highest mountain, and those might have helped, and they might have developed filters from plants to breathe those waters

I'm just speculating
That's some speculation.. :)

What do you do with this?

Gen 7:
21) And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22) All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
 
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theanointedsinner

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That's some speculation.. :)

What do you do with this?

Gen 7:
21) And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22) All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
well, air-pockets can't help on this one, they did die but how was there even giants after the flood?
 

shrume

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well, air-pockets can't help on this one, they did die but how was there even giants after the flood?
The devil tried the same thing again that he did before the flood. He sent more spirits to mess with the genetics of humans, causing more nephilim. The nephilim were eventually wiped out about the time of David (Goliath was one..) or soon after. The spirits that caused it are awaiting judgment in Tartarus:

2 Pet 2:
4) For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell [Tartarus] , and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
 
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theanointedsinner

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in short, the question on this thread makes the wrong assumption

the truth is, all giants died in the flood
and Satan tries to create more giants on earth
 

Jewel5712

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There were giants in the earth in those days;
Genesis 6:4

So if there were giants living amongst men before the 'flood' then how does one reconcile the scriptural accounts of giants after the flood, for example in 2 Sam 21:20 of “a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.”
I remember reading how allen angels had sex with human women that bore giants...ugly ones too..not sure bout before or after flood and i know theres a certain name for them..brb..gotta google..lol
 

Jewel5712

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There were giants in the earth in those days;
Genesis 6:4

So if there were giants living amongst men before the 'flood' then how does one reconcile the scriptural accounts of giants after the flood, for example in 2 Sam 21:20 of “a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant.”
Found it
The Nephilim /ˈnɛfɪˌlɪm/ (Hebrew: נְפִילִים‬, nefilim) were the offspring of the "sons of God" and the "daughters of men" before the Deluge, according to Genesis 6:1–4narrative of the Bible.
A similar or identical biblical Hebrew term, read as "Nephilim" by some scholars, or as the word "fallen" by others, appears in Ezekiel 32:27.[1][2]
When people began to multiply on the face of the ground, and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that they were fair; and they took wives for themselves of all that they chose. Then the Lord said, “My spirit shall not abide in mortals forever, for they are flesh; their days shall be one hundred twenty years.” The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went in to the daughters of humans, who bore children to them. These were the heroes that were of old, warriors of renown.​

Interesting eh? Not sure it answers your question though...the Philistine ibe were giants..