Does Joseph = Imhotep?

Well within the realm of possibility.

We know the name "Joseph" wasn't actually the name of the person. Even the modern Hebrew language doesn't sound like the original language spoken or written back then just like modern English sounds nothing like original English. The letter "J" is relatively new compared to all other modern letters and was originally simply a stylized "I" sounding like a "Yeh" or "Eeh".

"Ph" didn't always have a "Fhh" sound but was simply "Pu" with the "h" almost silent.

So if we write both names using these rules from Hebrew phonetics (though, again, modern Hebrew isn't exact a fair representation of the original), also knowing that the name of the living God (yah) is in Joseph's name as "yeho" we get:

IMHOTEP = Ye(m)-Ho-Tep

IOSEP = Ye-Ho-Sep


And while these could be completely different names (as many ancient names only differed by a single letter or sound), it IS interesting how similar they are. And what gives me pause to consider what you've shared is the fact that we know translation and transliteration errors occur ALL THE TIME when transcribing. The most obvious example is Jesus from Yahshua (again < modern Hebrew so His name wasn't exactly Yahshua). Same person, but with completely different names on the surface...until you dig deeper.

As another example, even the name "Hebrew" is the Hellenize version of "Ibri" or "Ehbreh".

So it's very possible these two names represent the same man.

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In terms of people worshiping this man as a god; right or wrong, we read in Acts how pagans worshiped Paul and Barnabas as gods also because the Spirit of Yah was with them.

Another interesting bit of information that I just read...

Imhotep's remains are missing.

Scripture tells us that as a last request Joseph asked his remains be taken with Israel when they leave Egypt for the Promised Land. And interestingly enough no one can find Imhotep's bones anywhere in Egypt.


From the a website on the man:

However, there is something more that fascinates and attracts the interest of Egyptologists about Imhotep, and that is the fact that his tomb has yet to be discovered.

Ancient Egyptians took their preparations for the afterlife very seriously, and a man of Imhotep’s prestige and wealth would have had the resources to be able to build a magnificent tomb to house his mummified body safely for eternity, along with all his rich funerary equipment.

There have been many theories, pointers, and clues as to where Imhotep’s tomb should be located, but to date, there is no tomb that has been excavated in Egypt that can be positively attributed to the great man


It's all very interesting...

I am not doing anything as you would suggest. I basically am tossing out possibilities and nothing else. nothing is ever definitive. try getting a clue before assuming you have a clue!!

that is a definite clue they cannot find the remains of such a high ranking, wealthy man like Imhotep. and knowing that Joseph had his bones sent to the Promised Land makes this bit of information even more intriguing, concerning not being able to locate Imhotep.

it is all very interesting indeed!!

with all of your research you have applied to this thought of Joseph and Imhotep being one and the same person, do you believe it is possible they are the same person?

I am not doing anything as you would suggest. I basically am tossing out possibilities and nothing else. nothing is ever definitive. try getting a clue before assuming you have a clue!!

that's because you are a puppet and cannot think outside the box!!

anyone with a brain can find this topic online.





I did not completely fill out my information is what that states. why would I want to be a Christian? I follow God, not a group of people with a title!!





the ONENESS concept!!





only to the clueless I suppose.

Has anyone reported this person yet?

while you are busy tossing out possibilities and experimenting with your own understanding, we are busy trusting in the truth of the Word of God as the basis for our understanding.

That's what makes us Christians.

Yes I believe it's possible. Reason demands that there has to be independent historical records in Egypt confirming the existence of such an influential man as Joseph (but obviously not with the name we know him by), just like there are independent historical records from Rome confirming the existence of Christ.

More than anything, if it's proven to be true it would further provide yet another witness to the world that the scriptural accounts are true.

The Bible, curiously enough, actually records Joseph's Egyptian name - during the time he lived, the Asiatics (mainly Hebrews) in Egypt would have spoken Egyptian in varying degrees of fluency, so Joseph’s name would not have been an issue. Later on in time though (after the Exodus), having been passed on only in oral tradition, by the time it came to be written, the original Egyptian got a bit scrambled up.

The Bible gives the Egyptian, but via Hebrew “pronunciation” if you will – a lot like a news reporter pronouncing say a Chinese diplomat’s name, it’s going to be very Anglicized. Same thing here.

So, the Bible gives it (in Hebrew spelling) as: Sâfenath Pa’nêah (there’s actually a dot beneath the initial ‘S’), or as we have it in English “Zaphenath paaneah”.

The first part of his name isn’t actually the name at all; it’s a common Egyptian formula for naming a foreigner.

In Egyptian it’s: Djed-en-ef.

This is, as archaeologists call it, “Egypto-speech”. Egyptians, like their neighbors, didn’t write vowels, so modern day Linguists and Egyptologists insert an ‘e’ between the consonants to make the words pronounceable.

Djed-en-ef means “he who is called”.

Pa ‘neah is “pa ankh” – “the living (one)”. There’s another rendering of ‘ankh’ we’ll get to in a minute.

A fitting name, and perhaps a bit of Egyptian humor on pharaoh’s part, since his relatives thought him dead, he calls him “The Living”.

But there’s also another possibility – ‘pa’ as a separate definite article comes rather late in Egyptian; likely an influence from Greek.

It’s quite possible that “pa” is actually “pi” which is a corrupted form of “Ipi”. “Ipi, is how the Egyptians would have rendered the Hebrew name “Joseph”.

The ‘ankh’, could also be ‘ankhu’ meaning “is alive”.

Thus, if we go with the second rendering of pa’aneah as “Ipi Ankhu”, Joseph’s Egyptian name is actually his own: “Joseph Is Living”.

Imhotep (Egy.: ii-m-htp) is not the same person. I don't think they would have even been contemporaries.

Lol so if we agree with you, we are ok, but if not we are puppetts?

Whatever dude, have a nice life, will pray for you

Has anyone reported this person yet?

I did read the first several posts by the OP on this thread, but I must have missed what you just quoted. I will say though, that I was immediately suspicious of the username.

Just goes to show that the truth always comes out, even if it has to put its pants on first!

suspicious of what?
for calling people out?
go cry me a river you fake example of God!!

Are you being a good example of God?

Yeshua called the religious people of His day hypocrites, liars, and full of dead bones.

it's not as if I am using foul language and cursing here.

Yes and Jesus also said to remove the beam from your own eye and then you can remove the speck from your brother's eye.

Jesus understood human nature very well, because it is nearly impossible to remove the beam from one's own eye since most people do not even know it is there, they are always focused on the speck in the other person's eye.

Your attack was personal and offensive and served no purpose.

Not everyone agrees here, you need to be able to let it go when people disagree and not make it personal.

it would be a great connection for scripture to those who don't believe scripture connects to history!!