Religion Generates Evil

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And reading the numbers is staggering,

1 in 4 girls and 1 in 6 boys will be sexually abused before they turn 18 years old.

Looking at that figure and here at CC how many people have been sexually abused quite a lot, these figures are not new, it's been going on for century's if not more.
 

Dino246

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I didn't attack your faith with lies and falsehoods. I don't deny all the "Catholic garbage" for what is/was there, you deny adding wood to the stake fires.
What you are trying to prove will never work. It's a senseless discussion; it backfires on the accusers. Proving which church has the most sinners in it is stupid. Objective facts, empirical statistics, hard evidence cannot heal blind prejudice. That's the job of the Holy Spirit.
I'm not "trying to prove" anything. I'm directly telling you that any attempt to defend anything by throwing attention onto something else is inherently flawed. The reasoning of such an argument is faulty, regardless of the entity being defended or of the accusations being made.

By the way, since you're throwing accusations around, I suggest you make sure you're throwing the right ones at the right people.
 
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To be ashamed or mad of being a Catholic or in Catholicism in general because of that well don't stop there be ashamed and mad at being in this world.
Is that right to do, I would say no for God has a purpose for each and every one of us in this world. so I'd say don't completely focus on the bits and pieces that come out in the news but the whole picture across the globe. satan likes to get folks paying attention to certain sectors of it and not at the whole problem.
 
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John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

ALso the Catholic Church is the harlot that rides the beast in Revelation, anyone that expects anything from them other tham lies and deception is not on the right path.
She is the Harlot, but what is also true- she has served her purpose . The Song of Solomon speaks of the many maidens and concubines. I say this because we know that scripture is God Breathed:
2Timothy 3:15
All Scripture is God-Breathed
…15From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is profitable for doctrine, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…
This means the Song of Songs is God's for His Beloved elect Lady =Bride. In this Song not only is the end time Elect Lady chosen among maidens= among the present denominations, but her experiences too are revealed.

Concubines do not hold His heart but hold a piece of Him= not in fullness. But what is at hand for the chosen out of each is perfected love! A Harlot too serves His purpose. But a Harlot is discarded once a purpose is served, that is coming with the fall of the beast system= political systems of the world . In particular those in alliance through the EU=G7 the Harlot rides upon, the beast out of the sea is going to receive a blow to the head at any time now. Then the Beast out of the earth will rise= new alliances but all will worship the former Beast (OUT OF THE SEA). This second beast, is the system which recovers from what is coming!

Also, in Rev. she is called mother of all the abominations of the earth. Those children not conceived by God but by her adulteries like Protestantism- because of her sin of indulgences are no better off. A Harlot means she is not who the Lord will give His full commitment to . Once a Harlot always a Harlot, not commitment quality. The Rev.12 sign Sept. 23-24 2017 is the sign of Rev.12 and the Lord is choosing His elect . His elect will bring forth Christ=Male Child in fullness.

What is also true is that throughout the centuries there have been people who have sincerely served the Lord from within the Harlot denomination. For today Christ says in Rev.18 "Come out of her my people that you may not receive of her plagues". He does not say "Come out and you will be my people". Children of God can be conceived inside the Harlot there are both Cain and Able within the same woman. If You notice- the Cains have always slayed the Ables. That is why the Harlot is drunk on the blood of martyrs and saints. For their have been both saints and martyrs who have and do dwell in her. In her not of her. If you notice throughout her existence they have admonished her and reprimanded her from within her time of HIS-STORY. They do not follow her ways.

Today people are being called out all over the globe from denominations. The Orthodox are too subject to false power. Christ is calling His chosen out of all. The Harlot is the most powerful of the denominations though. I believe in the letter to the Church of Philadelphia=(Brotherly love) I choose this- I show esteem and admonishment to all people called out of all denominations. I get the experiences of Christianity throughout HIS-STORY (History) in the denominations. There are and have been true Christians in all. Many have sincerely loved Christ in all. Based on what is in the heart the Lord judges, I can not condemn all souls in any particular one . I can not reveal all the Song of songs for it is a letter to the Beloved of Christ , it is not for all to know.
 

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THankfully Yah will prevail! halleluYah!

Psalm 103:19, “יהוה has established His throne in the heavens, and His reign shall rule over all.”

Psalms 50:3-4, “Our Mighty One comes, and is not silent – A fire consumes before Him, And it shall be very stormy all around Him. He calls to the heavens from above, And to the earth, to rightly rule His people:”

Revelation 6:17, “because the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

Revelation 19:1-2, “And after this I heard a loud voice of a great crowd in the heaven, saying, “Halleluyah! Deliverance and esteem and respect and power to יהוה our Mighty One. Because true and righteous are His judgments, (Psa 19:9) because He has judged the great whore who corrupted the earth with her whoring. And He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her.”

Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw the heaven opened, and there was a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Trustworthy and True, and in righteousness He judges and fights. And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, having a Name that had been written, which no one had perceived except Himself – and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood (Isaiah 63:2) and His Name is called: The Word of יהוה. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty Strength. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: SOVEREIGN OF SOVEREIGNS AND MASTER OF MASTERS.”
 
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Why all the focus on denoms, Call out the schools, Home Depot, farm fresh, the laundry mats, governments, your neighbor, your family,

predators are every where in society.
 
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That is what the end of the age of sin is all about. No one will go unaffected "Distress of Nations".
 

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John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."

Also the Catholic Church is the harlot that rides the beast in Revelation, anyone that expects anything from them other than lies and deception is not on the right path.
The Catholic church is NOT the harlot. That would be Islam who gave birth to its jihadist sects who commit the abominations of the earth on a daily basis. The other day one Sunni teenager blew himself up blew up at a Shia French run high school where teenagers were doing their entrance exams and killed almost 50 teenagers.

Afgan suicide bomber

Two women suicide bombers blew themselves up in a crowded place in Nigeria killing 10 people.

Adamawa

Suicide bombers....they're right here....

And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

"And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire... (suicide vest)

The word for breastplates is the word 'thorax,' and were held by straps that went over the shoulders or around the neck.

"...and of jacinth," (dark red)...

From Vines....
Jacinth:
signifies "hyacinthine," perhaps primarily having the color of the hyacinth. Some regard its color as that of the martagon lily, a dusky red. According to Swete, the word 'jacinth' in Rev 9:17 is, "doubtless meant to describe the blue smoke of a sulphurous flame."

"...and brimstone:...." sparks and explosion.

This is the only place the word 'brimstone' or Strong's #2306 is used in the NT. Strong's #2306 comes from 2303 and says, "in its original sense of "flashing."
"...and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; (Babylonians) and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone."

The Islamic whore of Babylon promises it's fanatical adherents a mansion in paradise with as many as 72 bedrooms and 72 virgins for filling the harlots cup. The amount of virgins they get is dependent upon the magnitude of the abomination they commit. The Islamic whore will terrorize the world into submission using some of the most horrific means available to man today. The next 911 is just around the corner.
 

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Walls
“There is no crueler tyranny than that which is perpetrated under the shield of law and in the name of justice.” Charles-Louis de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu, 1742.

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Fr. Macrae, sentenced to 67 years
on no evidence

In 2013, Dorothy Rabinowitz, a Pulitzer Prize winning writer on The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board, published “The Trials of Father MacRae,”​
THankfully Yah will prevail! halleluYah!

Psalm 103:19, “יהוה has established His throne in the heavens, and His reign shall rule over all.”

Psalms 50:3-4, “Our Mighty One comes, and is not silent – A fire consumes before Him, And it shall be very stormy all around Him. He calls to the heavens from above, And to the earth, to rightly rule His people:”

Revelation 6:17, “because the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

Revelation 19:1-2, “And after this I heard a loud voice of a great crowd in the heaven, saying, “Halleluyah! Deliverance and esteem and respect and power to יהוה our Mighty One. Because true and righteous are His judgments, (Psa 19:9) because He has judged the great whore who corrupted the earth with her whoring. And He has avenged on her the blood of His servants shed by her.”

Revelation 19:11-16, “And I saw the heaven opened, and there was a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Trustworthy and True, and in righteousness He judges and fights. And His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns, having a Name that had been written, which no one had perceived except Himself – and having been dressed in a robe dipped in blood (Isaiah 63:2) and His Name is called: The Word of יהוה. And the armies in the heaven, dressed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. And out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should smite the nations. And He shall shepherd them with a rod of iron. And He treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of the Almighty Strength. And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written: SOVEREIGN OF SOVEREIGNS AND MASTER OF MASTERS.”
You write like a Seventh Day Adventist.
I'm not "trying to prove" anything. I'm directly telling you that any attempt to defend anything by throwing attention onto something else is inherently flawed. The reasoning of such an argument is faulty, regardless of the entity being defended or of the accusations being made.

By the way, since you're throwing accusations around, I suggest you make sure you're throwing the right ones at the right people.
I am directly telling you your absurd exaggerations amounts to persecution. It's easy to prove that sex abuse in Protestantism is worse, but rock throwing contests are a waste of time. I have bigger and more rocks than you, and I am not going to use them. You are demanding that I return fire. Worse, you are too proud and self righteous to admit you are wrong in your ridiculous exaggerations, and won't back out of a thread of bigotry that you started.

I'm still waiting for the name of your church, unless you have something to cover up. This request has been misinterpreted as blame shifting. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. That's the point it seems no one got.

Not once have I denied a sex abuse problem in the CC.
It's persecutors like you who deny what has been done about it.
 

Jewel5712

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Is it possible that religion through an unknown process produce more evil than good. I am just saying that because of all the scandals that have recently come out especially sexual scandals. These are not a few people but large scale organized rapes! For example, it looks like every catholic priest is an abuser and all bishops approved that (may be even the pope). When I see that I am ashamed to be a christian. Why does something that is supposed to make us good, produce so much evil?
Religion is an ACT/works...spiritual is heart changed
 

Dino246

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I am directly telling you your absurd exaggerations amounts to persecution. It's easy to prove that sex abuse in Protestantism is worse, but rock throwing contests are a waste of time. I have bigger and more rocks than you, and I am not going to use them. You are demanding that I return fire. Worse, you are too proud and self righteous to admit you are wrong in your ridiculous exaggerations, and won't back out of a thread of bigotry that you started.

I'm still waiting for the name of your church, unless you have something to cover up. This request has been misinterpreted as blame shifting. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. That's the point it seems no one got.

Not once have I denied a sex abuse problem in the CC.
It's persecutors like you who deny what has been done about it.
Now you're just whining.

Get it through your head: you cannot defend entity "A" by throwing shade at entity "B".
 
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That is what the end of the age of sin is all about. No one will go unaffected "Distress of Nations".
Yup dirty deeds done dirt cheap right under people's noses, while people focus on the big churches and governments. Yes that is happening in churches etc. but the scale of it is far far in weight to the everyday backyard evil stuff that practically goes unnoticed barely discussed.
 

epostle

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Now you're just whining.

Get it through your head: you cannot defend entity "A" by throwing shade at entity "B".
Use the quote feature instead of making things up.
Get this through your head:
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Do I have to explain in detail the meaning of that saying, with dictionary definitions for each word?
Not once have I made excuses or defenses for sick priests. Pointing the finger at Protestants goes no where. Pounding the cultural drum against the priesthood over a crisis that has ended amounts to insane bigotry, reaching the highest levels of judicial systems.
 
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First of all. Catholicism and Christianity are two different things. I believe this happened in Catholicism because they are not allowed to marry. The bible says to marry rather than burn. Religion does bring about more evil than good. The body of Christ is not a religious organization. The body of Christ are people who are all of the same spirit, and are all being brought into the same understanding. These other organizations are all divided. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. I think that now is the time to check our religion.
 

Jewel5712

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Now you're just whining.

Get it through your head: you cannot defend entity "A" by throwing shade at entity "B".
Lol..i just like your "whining" part.lol
 

epostle

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error: post #51 is directed at Pampou, not Dino.
 
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Papou

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Non denominational Church. No known scandals. Focusing on serving Christ.
Celibacy is one issue and obedience is another one that may be related to catholic sexual crimes
 
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First of all. Catholicism and Christianity are two different things. I believe this happened in Catholicism because they are not allowed to marry. The bible says to marry rather than burn. Religion does bring about more evil than good. The body of Christ is not a religious organization. The body of Christ are people who are all of the same spirit, and are all being brought into the same understanding. These other organizations are all divided. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. I think that now is the time to check our religion.
I agree but Christianity is our religion. I get what you are saying.
Chris·ti·an·i·ty
ˌkrisCHēˈanədē/
noun
noun: Christianity
  1. the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices
    Denominations are not our religion. I am simply Christian, not Catholic or Orthodox or Protestant.
    You have made some valid points. God Bless!

 

Dino246

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People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Apply that to yourself and we can end this silliness. Even if you don't, I'm done. No point in repeating myself.
 
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pjharrison

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I agree but Christianity is our religion. I get what you are saying.
Chris·ti·an·i·ty
ˌkrisCHēˈanədē/
noun
noun: Christianity
  1. the religion based on the person and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, or its beliefs and practices
    Denominations are not our religion. I am simply Christian, not Catholic or Orthodox or Protestant.
    You have made some valid points. God Bless!
That's man definition of Christianity.
James 1:26-27 26Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. 27Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
I'm not intentionally trying to be deceitful, but in my opinion Christianity is of the world. I believe that Christianity of today is the great fallen away. It's not what was started through Jesus and the apostles.