Child birth with not a bit of pain

WOW, you were really blessed, - I passed-out from the pain!!

Ice cream is good though. My favorite is strawberry but chocolate is good too. I prefer vanilla if I am going to add toppings.

Scott Peck wrote an entire book about this that was on the best seller list for ages. The book gave illustrations of the results of instant gratification and paying a price today for a long term goal.

For myself, I don't think the pleasures of white carbs are worth taking the chance of needing to pay a hard price, especially when it is my child paying the bill.

"The vast majority of Tlingit women suffer very little and some not at all, when their children are born. They have been known to give birth while sleeping."

After all of these stories imma never have kidsto lol
The fear of the pain and the catheter...naw i think i will adobt hahah

No, demi. Perhaps, if like an athlete or a researcher you'd like to look at things the way they study our body and how it works.. but searching online may not be very helpful if you find th "wrong" things. Why, even i grew up thinking all births hurt, as that was what we grew up learning... at home, school, movies, books. But Wessel's book is beautiful, and i believe other women who wrote abt this must know what they're talking abt. A Christian, she tells about how God changed her understanding that giving birth need not be suffering. It's both simple and complicated, how you'll go abt learning abt it. I mean, who wasnt afraid... but God shows He is beyond all the misconceptions we grew up with. Now i am not pointing at others who had different births, i said, but let God lead you to His love and goodness. He's always faithful.

I didnt want to repost much, incl. part of chapter on Theology from Wessel, but i think it is so important and women would miss the whole thing if i wont. As blik and i have started on the discussions, let me for those who have no time to go back to the Gems thread...


Feb 26, 2016 #58
Ch. 17. cont.
During the Renaissance

Dr. philipp semonelweiss(sp?),* an austrian physician showed the direct relationship bet. the attending physician's lack of personal cleanliness and the resulting puerperal infection of the (childbearing) mother.

Only a hundred yrs ago a physician would frequently go directly from dissecting corpse to assist a woman in labor, w/o eve washing his hands in water. The doctors themselves were infecting the mothers and causing their deaths.
This in contrast to the jewish regard for cleanliness taught by moses and enforced by the jewish law...

Ch. 19 Contemporary obstetric practices
Doctors too, are victims of our negative concepts of childbirth. They have suffered when their patients suffered, and if sometimes if they seem indifferent to a woman’s pain, it is because they felt they had to take a purely objective and scientific attitude toward their patients to function effectively as a physician.


*Ignaz Semmelweis, in full Ignaz Philipp Semmelweis or Hungarian Ignác Fülöp Semmelweis, (born July 1, 1818, Buda, Hungary, Austrian Empire [now Budapest, Hungary]—died August 13, 1865, Vienna, Austria), German Hungarian physician who discovered the cause of puerperal (childbed) fever and introduced antisepsis into medical practice.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ignaz-Semmelweis

I know alli about birth..physially etc. I also know that depending on the genetics its worse or less. I kniw people with loads of kids that never really had a problem. My family has a history of babys getting stuck or having.stuff around their neck. Perhaps i shoukd learn toto sneeze out babied

This is fascinating. I know little to nothing about it. Still, it's very fascinating. The concept of mind over matter has always fascinated me. Good thread.

This is NOT mind over matter. It is having faith in God's ability to create women so they can birth children without their taking the birth in their own hands.