Greetings! Any here have the Courage to Question?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Does God teach them all these conflicting Dogmas?


  • Total voters
    8
Oct 7, 2018
66
10
8
#1
THOUSANDS of churches with different teachings- all CLAIMING to be Christian!
They aren't!
 
Sep 9, 2018
2,244
1,032
113
71
Illinois
#2
The Question is a Jehovah's Witnesses and should not be allowed to post on a Christian message board. Please take his posts with a grain of salt and much biblical discernment.

 

Locutus

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2017
5,928
685
113
#4
Different teachings on some things, interpretation varies on some subjects such as the "end times" does not necessarily make them non Christian.
 

Subhumanoidal

Well-known member
Sep 17, 2018
4,060
3,173
113
#5
The Question is a Jehovah's Witnesses and should not be allowed to post on a Christian message board. Please take his posts with a grain of salt and much biblical discernment.
Actually there is no rule against non-Christians joining or posting on the site. So his existence on the site is fully permitted. But, like anyone, Christian or not, it's the context of the posts that matter, not the beliefs they hold or religion they believe in. If his posts violate the actual ToS then they can be reported. But my guess is, so far, this post has done nothing to break the ToS. We see similar kinds of posts by Christians of varying denominations and theology all the time on the site.
 
Sep 9, 2018
2,244
1,032
113
71
Illinois
#6
Actually there is no rule against non-Christians joining or posting on the site. So his existence on the site is fully permitted. But, like anyone, Christian or not, it's the context of the posts that matter, not the beliefs they hold or religion they believe in. If his posts violate the actual ToS then they can be reported. But my guess is, so far, this post has done nothing to break the ToS. We see similar kinds of posts by Christians of varying denominations and theology all the time on the site.
Actually, for the T.O.S. posted at the head of this forum . . .

There is nothing wrong with discussion that is vibrant or passionate. So please don't be turned off by that.

On the other hand, we will step in if we see any of these.....

1. Blatant personal attacks. (This means actually attacking someone. It doesn't mean when someone fails to believe something you believe.)
2. Blatant false teachings against the essentials of our faith. (We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith, but if time passes and they keep it up, they will be dealt with.)
3.Perverse talk and swearing.
 

Subhumanoidal

Well-known member
Sep 17, 2018
4,060
3,173
113
#7
Actually, for the T.O.S. posted at the head of this forum . . .

There is nothing wrong with discussion that is vibrant or passionate. So please don't be turned off by that.

On the other hand, we will step in if we see any of these.....

1. Blatant personal attacks. (This means actually attacking someone. It doesn't mean when someone fails to believe something you believe.)
2. Blatant false teachings against the essentials of our faith. (We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith, but if time passes and they keep it up, they will be dealt with.)
3.Perverse talk and swearing.
To quote your own words, the words that caused me to respond...
"The Question is a Jehovah's Witnesses and should not be allowed to post on a Christian message board."
I countered that by stating that simply because one is not a Christian does not mean they are not allowed on the site. Your accusation was since he was not a Christian he should not be allowed to post.
I also pointed out that this specific post is not against ToS. Which it's not. He's not teaching anything and these questions can, and have been, asked by Christians as well.
There have been users on this site for years that were not Christians.
So posting the rule doesn't change what i said. In fact it only reinforces it. "We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith". The Question has been a member for only a week. If his posts become too aggressive he will be dealt with, but it seems at this point the staff have found him acceptable. Therefore he Is allowed to post here. Otherwise he wouldn't be. Simple.
 
Sep 9, 2018
2,244
1,032
113
71
Illinois
#9
To quote your own words, the words that caused me to respond...
"The Question is a Jehovah's Witnesses and should not be allowed to post on a Christian message board."
I countered that by stating that simply because one is not a Christian does not mean they are not allowed on the site. Your accusation was since he was not a Christian he should not be allowed to post.
I also pointed out that this specific post is not against ToS. Which it's not. He's not teaching anything and these questions can, and have been, asked by Christians as well.
There have been users on this site for years that were not Christians.
So posting the rule doesn't change what i said. In fact it only reinforces it. "We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith". The Question has been a member for only a week. If his posts become too aggressive he will be dealt with, but it seems at this point the staff have found him acceptable. Therefore he Is allowed to post here. Otherwise he wouldn't be. Simple.
And I responded that they should not be allowed to post because . . . 2. Blatant false teachings against the essentials of our faith. (We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith, but if time passes and they keep it up, they will be dealt with.)

Why would you want a cultist to come on here an confuse or indoctrinate the baby lambs of the Lord Jesus Christ. Would you be okay with them converting someone to their thinking and that person goes to hell?

And it wasn't because he was a non-Christian (which is definitely is) but because he is a cultist.
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
#10
Actually, for the T.O.S. posted at the head of this forum . . .

There is nothing wrong with discussion that is vibrant or passionate. So please don't be turned off by that.

On the other hand, we will step in if we see any of these.....

1. Blatant personal attacks. (This means actually attacking someone. It doesn't mean when someone fails to believe something you believe.)
2. Blatant false teachings against the essentials of our faith. (We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith, but if time passes and they keep it up, they will be dealt with.)
3.Perverse talk and swearing.
Such as.....

Jesus is not God
Jesus was created or had a beginning
If you are Baptist you are a cultist

etc.....
 

NayborBear

Banned Serpent Seed Heresy
#11
And I responded that they should not be allowed to post because . . . 2. Blatant false teachings against the essentials of our faith. (We'll allow some users for a time to discuss issues that are against the faith, but if time passes and they keep it up, they will be dealt with.)

Why would you want a cultist to come on here an confuse or indoctrinate the baby lambs of the Lord Jesus Christ. Would you be okay with them converting someone to their thinking and that person goes to hell?

And it wasn't because he was a non-Christian (which is definitely is) but because he is a cultist.

I would "think", one as skilled as you are, would "welcome" one, and, if not welcoming, at least give the poster some "space", with which to make his argument/s. Being able, as you are in deftly refuting his "claims", or teachings. Who knows, maybe you could help "steer" him away from the gates of hell. Plant a little "seed", yanno? jez sayin'
 

Lillywolf

Well-known member
Aug 29, 2018
1,562
543
113
#12
THOUSANDS of churches with different teachings- all CLAIMING to be Christian!
They aren't!
I personally think man made denominationalism has put the chasm between the word of God and the truth as revealed by The Word that is God.
Denominations named after men who invented that traditional dogma for instance is idolatry of a sort. I think it is what keeps the body of Christ at odd's. As it is said in the secular political realm, "a nation divided against itself cannot stand."
What then are the chances of a church, the body of the faithful in Christ as the Bible defines church, divided against itself?
How many times have you heard someone charge a Christian who speaks of a certain scripture with being a dread "Calvinist!" As if that's a wicked thing to be.
How many times have you heard someone find fault with someone of any particular denomination or church?
That's division. Divisiveness. It's a machination of the devil in my view. Man's ego's formulating a dogma, a doctrine, that puts God in a cubed belief set. And as consequence the faithful in allegiance with that belief set so as to "belong" to that particular "church". When God said He cannot be contained by buildings or structures created by man how do such men as John Wesley, John Knox, John Calvin, and of course the RCC itself, explain their responsibility in that division of a people who are to be one in Christ?
 
Dec 12, 2013
46,515
20,402
113
#13
I personally think man made denominationalism has put the chasm between the word of God and the truth as revealed by The Word that is God.
Denominations named after men who invented that traditional dogma for instance is idolatry of a sort. I think it is what keeps the body of Christ at odd's. As it is said in the secular political realm, "a nation divided against itself cannot stand."
What then are the chances of a church, the body of the faithful in Christ as the Bible defines church, divided against itself?
How many times have you heard someone charge a Christian who speaks of a certain scripture with being a dread "Calvinist!" As if that's a wicked thing to be.
How many times have you heard someone find fault with someone of any particular denomination or church?
That's division. Divisiveness. It's a machination of the devil in my view. Man's ego's formulating a dogma, a doctrine, that puts God in a cubed belief set. And as consequence the faithful in allegiance with that belief set so as to "belong" to that particular "church". When God said He cannot be contained by buildings or structures created by man how do such men as John Wesley, John Knox, John Calvin, and of course the RCC itself, explain their responsibility in that division of a people who are to be one in Christ?
One who claims that JESUS is not God and or was created or had a beginning goes beyond the implication of your post....the bible teaches one central truth concerning everything that is found in the word of God and two cannot walk together unless they be agreed......just saying......
 

calibob

Sinner saved by grace
May 29, 2018
8,268
5,516
113
Anaheim, Cali.
#14
One who claims that JESUS is not God and or was created or had a beginning goes beyond the implication of your post....the bible teaches one central truth concerning everything that is found in the word of God and two cannot walk together unless they be agreed......just saying......
Agreed only if you prefer Original Coke over Pepsi. Otherwise, to the curb you walk.:LOL:
 
Sep 9, 2018
2,244
1,032
113
71
Illinois
#15
I would "think", one as skilled as you are, would "welcome" one, and, if not welcoming, at least give the poster some "space", with which to make his argument/s. Being able, as you are in deftly refuting his "claims", or teachings. Who knows, maybe you could help "steer" him away from the gates of hell. Plant a little "seed", yanno? jez sayin'
Would you allow wolves to have free access to your chicken coops?
 

John146

Senior Member
Jan 13, 2016
17,128
3,689
113
#18
THOUSANDS of churches with different teachings- all CLAIMING to be Christian!
They aren't!
Failure to rightly divide the word of truth. A lot of churches take the teachings and promises to the nation of Israel and apply them to the church, the body of Christ. This should not be so.
 

PyongPing

Active member
Oct 9, 2018
281
53
28
www.worldincrisis.org
#19
THOUSANDS of churches with different teachings- all CLAIMING to be Christian!
They aren't!
Hey, I heard you were a JW. Is that true? If so, I need to ask you some prophecy questions that I cannot immediately locate in the WTS online literature, that I need for my Prophecy comparison White board. Would you care to help me out?
 

JaumeJ

Senior Member
Jul 2, 2011
21,429
6,707
113
#20
THOUSANDS of churches with different teachings- all CLAIMING to be Christian!
They aren't!
This subject has been posted also by yours truly.

I asked the question, "Were Jesus to come today, which denomination would He elect to be a member of?" What was His denomination. Judaism did not exist until His time and after,.

The faith Jesus taught is the faith of Abraham............Abraham may be traqnslated as "Hoored Father of the Peoples (Nations)," if that should help.

I belong to Jesus Christ, Yeshua.........not to any of the denominations untr the umbrell of Judaism or Christianity. I form a member of the Body of Jesus, where ever they may be. One day it will be clear to all.