I believe this is where the "Right" resides...

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CharliRenee

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Sweet Epiphanies…

What I'm about to share is simple. Most of you already got this a long time ago. Let me just preface this by sharing a wee bit about myself, that you probably have also already deduced if you know me at all. I like thought, probably too much; it entices me towards journeys of adventures explored. I love finding pieces to puzzles. I have found that those answers come when we ask the right questions, for sure, but also when we don't ask at all.

Lately, I have been studying the bible in a brand new way. I have been digging in. I think that choice is good when the mindset is healthy, when the agenda has its proper perspectives. Let me try and explain…

I keep getting some answers, (honestly only probably only more questions). I occasionally feel, however, like I am getting closer to conclusions, oh silly me. I keep finding hidden treasures that satisfy my desires. Yes, the time spent has been feeding me in a different way than before. Sure, I am convinced it is medicinal food for the soul, spending time in His word. However, (and I mean a ginormous but needs to be remembered here) I kept facing a building urge to arrive, to get it all understood, to know it and Him in their entirety, ready to answer any question or doubt, knowing His character, patterns, plan and authority to ensure my walking in faith would be correctly carried out. It was like I was using the bible to build my own tower of babel, trying to reach heights that are only for Him.

Oh boy howdy what a foolishly presumptuous and lofty plan, lol. Who do I think I am... as though studying the blueprints of His design, which I will never fully understand, I could decipher the makeup of the architect. Don't get me wrong, we can and should learn of His names and attributes, history and geography are good, as is recognizing His patterns and His wisdom, but in doing so, we must never do so, thinking we will have all the answers, only the clues, and some of the certainties.

Our assurances don't come with the answers, and our trust and direction should never come because of conclusions; faith is built on the foundation of truth in the things that are hidden. Sure, He shines His Glory in our lives, confirmation is found in scripture and experience. Yes, we need to keep seeking Him, digging in like the Bereans, studying to be approved, finding joy in the pursuit of His strength and grace supplied. I just feel He has made something brand new clear to me…

Like He is saying...

Silly lovable child, don’t you know that loving me, and knowing I love you, doesn't come with knowing how love is made, where it came from, how it started and what got it there? It can help, and be profitable for your faith and the intimacy derived from it, but the love’s core and its power are rooted not in the mind of a matter but in the heart. You don't need proof that love exists, it just does.

I also believe the light of Him is saying...Keep drawing near to me by meditating on my word and with the words you so enjoy writing, but please don't forget that all I want is you, not your understanding, not your drawn conclusions, or solved equations, just your heartfelt devotion in thought, words, and action.

How can He use us for another, if our time is consumed attempting to know the ins and outs of Him and our own salvation? We, and that includes me, must trust that He knows what He is doing. Staring at a map, won’t get us anywhere, it only provides direction. The rest we must find through trusting His loving care as we move towards our final destination. I think this is where the overcoming is found, not in answering the puzzles accurately, or following through precisely, but in simply reaching and surrendering, like a child, with our whole hearts fully to Him; this is where the "Right" resides.
 

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Your literary skills and thought process are superb, your points of view worth considering and your posts delightful to read. This post is very descriptive in the father / daughter relationship that exists between the Heavenly Father and yourself. The way you write shows the love of God that you have in your heart and shows God to be warm, lovable and considerate of our feelings, emotions, pain, suffering, and our hopes and dreams as well. This post is another must-read, per usual and is outstanding in its content.
 

CharliRenee

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Your literary skills and thought process are superb, your points of view worth considering and your posts delightful to read. This post is very descriptive in the father / daughter relationship that exists between the Heavenly Father and yourself. The way you write shows the love of God that you have in your heart and shows God to be warm, lovable and considerate of our feelings, emotions, pain, suffering, and our hopes and dreams as well. This post is another must-read, per usual and is outstanding in its content.
Wow, thank you for all that uplifting encouragement. It is rewarding receiving it. Thank you so much for reading and appreciating.
 

Quantrill

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Sep 20, 2018
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Sweet Epiphanies…

What I'm about to share is simple. Most of you already got this a long time ago. Let me just preface this by sharing a wee bit about myself, that you probably have also already deduced if you know me at all. I like thought, probably too much; it entices me towards journeys of adventures explored. I love finding pieces to puzzles. I have found that those answers come when we ask the right questions, for sure, but also when we don't ask at all.

Lately, I have been studying the bible in a brand new way. I have been digging in. I think that choice is good when the mindset is healthy, when the agenda has its proper perspectives. Let me try and explain…

I keep getting some answers, (honestly only probably only more questions). I occasionally feel, however, like I am getting closer to conclusions, oh silly me. I keep finding hidden treasures that satisfy my desires. Yes, the time spent has been feeding me in a different way than before. Sure, I am convinced it is medicinal food for the soul, spending time in His word. However, (and I mean a ginormous but needs to be remembered here) I kept facing a building urge to arrive, to get it all understood, to know it and Him in their entirety, ready to answer any question or doubt, knowing His character, patterns, plan and authority to ensure my walking in faith would be correctly carried out. It was like I was using the bible to build my own tower of babel, trying to reach heights that are only for Him.

Oh boy howdy what a foolishly presumptuous and lofty plan, lol. Who do I think I am... as though studying the blueprints of His design, which I will never fully understand, I could decipher the makeup of the architect. Don't get me wrong, we can and should learn of His names and attributes, history and geography are good, as is recognizing His patterns and His wisdom, but in doing so, we must never do so, thinking we will have all the answers, only the clues, and some of the certainties.

Our assurances don't come with the answers, and our trust and direction should never come because of conclusions; faith is built on the foundation of truth in the things that are hidden. Sure, He shines His Glory in our lives, confirmation is found in scripture and experience. Yes, we need to keep seeking Him, digging in like the Bereans, studying to be approved, finding joy in the pursuit of His strength and grace supplied. I just feel He has made something brand new clear to me…

Like He is saying...

Silly lovable child, don’t you know that loving me, and knowing I love you, doesn't come with knowing how love is made, where it came from, how it started and what got it there? It can help, and be profitable for your faith and the intimacy derived from it, but the love’s core and its power are rooted not in the mind of a matter but in the heart. You don't need proof that love exists, it just does.

I also believe the light of Him is saying...Keep drawing near to me by meditating on my word and with the words you so enjoy writing, but please don't forget that all I want is you, not your understanding, not your drawn conclusions, or solved equations, just your heartfelt devotion in thought, words, and action.

How can He use us for another, if our time is consumed attempting to know the ins and outs of Him and our own salvation? We, and that includes me, must trust that He knows what He is doing. Staring at a map, won’t get us anywhere, it only provides direction. The rest we must find through trusting His loving care as we move towards our final destination. I think this is where the overcoming is found, not in answering the puzzles accurately, or following through precisely, but in simply reaching and surrendering, like a child, with our whole hearts fully to Him; this is where the "Right" resides.
I think I agree to a degree with what you are saying. The purpose of the Scripture and the Spirit is to increase our knowledge and experience of knowing God. And if our efforts to understand the Scripture do not increase our relationship with God, then we have failed. If our understanding of Scripture has not increased my intimacy with God, then my effort has failed.

This is the true purpose of God's Word, and His Spirit that He gives us. To know Him.

I believe David is the perfect example. After sinning against God with Bathsheba and being found out by God, David said this to God. (Ps. 51:16) "For thous desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt-offerings. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. "

David knew the Scriptures. And God was clear. A sacrifice was what He demanded for sin. Yet David knew God. And David knew the sacrifice was not the end of what God wanted. It was a step towards the end. What God wanted was a heart after Him. A broken and contrite heart. Just like David, a man after God's own heart.

Quantrill
 

CharliRenee

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I think I agree to a degree with what you are saying. The purpose of the Scripture and the Spirit is to increase our knowledge and experience of knowing God. And if our efforts to understand the Scripture do not increase our relationship with God, then we have failed. If our understanding of Scripture has not increased my intimacy with God, then my effort has failed.

This is the true purpose of God's Word, and His Spirit that He gives us. To know Him.

I believe David is the perfect example. After sinning against God with Bathsheba and being found out by God, David said this to God. (Ps. 51:16) "For thous desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt-offerings. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise. "

David knew the Scriptures. And God was clear. A sacrifice was what He demanded for sin. Yet David knew God. And David knew the sacrifice was not the end of what God wanted. It was a step towards the end. What God wanted was a heart after Him. A broken and contrite heart. Just like David, a man after God's own heart.

Quantrill
I think we both agree, about the hearts importance, we just took different roads. I think it is the heart of the matter, that I'm trying to reach. I get in my head too much when I dig in. The problem isn't in the seeking, the digging in, as I respect how the Bereans did. I love learning. For me, the problem is the way in which or maybe the mindset that causes a tilt when I'm seeking a matter. I could be wrong though. I don't know, I'm just realizing the struggle to know God need not be, if when I study I get out of His way.

I loved this....If our understanding of Scripture has not increased my intimacy with God, then my effort has failed. Perhaps you are on to something. I guess that I just have to remember that it is my heart and devotion, which perhaps is the hunger. I guess I just tend to get frustrated in the need to lean on my own understanding. Thanks for responding and for tickling me senses with thought. God Bless.
 

Quantrill

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I think we both agree, about the hearts importance, we just took different roads. I think it is the heart of the matter, that I'm trying to reach. I get in my head too much when I dig in. The problem isn't in the seeking, the digging in, as I respect how the Bereans did. I love learning. For me, the problem is the way in which or maybe the mindset that causes a tilt when I'm seeking a matter. I could be wrong though. I don't know, I'm just realizing the struggle to know God need not be, if when I study I get out of His way.

I loved this....If our understanding of Scripture has not increased my intimacy with God, then my effort has failed. Perhaps you are on to something. I guess that I just have to remember that it is my heart and devotion, which perhaps is the hunger. I guess I just tend to get frustrated in the need to lean on my own understanding. Thanks for responding and for tickling me senses with thought. God Bless.
You're quite welcome. I think it is important to see that all these need to work together. The Bible Study, the Spirit in giving us understanding in the written Word , and all the while enhancing our relationship with God and Christ.

Quantrill
 

CharliRenee

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You're quite welcome. I think it is important to see that all these need to work together. The Bible Study, the Spirit in giving us understanding in the written Word , and all the while enhancing our relationship with God and Christ.

Quantrill
I couldn't agree more