Is there a difference between the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost?

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ForestGreenCook

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The Holy Ghost was not given until after Jesus ascended, but in Isaiah 63:11, "Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock; Where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him?
 

Nehemiah6

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The Holy Ghost was not given until after Jesus ascended, but in Isaiah 63:11, "Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock; Where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him?
No difference at all.
 

JaumeJ

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It depends on which version of the Word you are reading. You do notneed a direct quote if I am truthful.

When Jesus was seen by one of the disciples walking in the sea on the water, he reported it to theothers and they said, surely you saw His ghosst...……..

The Holy Ghost is used in some translations while in others it is the Holy Spirit. Any novice believe who has read the Word knows this,.

If you need verse and chapter, you are one of the new converts to verse adn chapter since numbers were added tot he Word long after Jesus ascended to the Right Hand of the Father.

Yes, Jesus red out of the prophet Isaiah, but He jsut as often simply repeated the words without reference to the prophet . Of course He could do that being the Word...…...do you understand this?
 

TabinRivCA

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The words here 'Spirit and Ghost' come from the same base word and it's a fascinating story how why the two different words are used. If you research this you'll see there are opposing opinions, even on your Q. Btw Billy Graham stated They are the same.
 

ForestGreenCook

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No difference at all.
The comforter which is the Holy Ghost was not given until Jesus had ascended. How then do you explain Isaiah 63:11 when God put the Holy Spirit within Moses?
 

ForestGreenCook

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It depends on which version of the Word you are reading. You do notneed a direct quote if I am truthful.

When Jesus was seen by one of the disciples walking in the sea on the water, he reported it to theothers and they said, surely you saw His ghosst...……..

The Holy Ghost is used in some translations while in others it is the Holy Spirit. Any novice believe who has read the Word knows this,.

If you need verse and chapter, you are one of the new converts to verse adn chapter since numbers were added tot he Word long after Jesus ascended to the Right Hand of the Father.

Yes, Jesus red out of the prophet Isaiah, but He jsut as often simply repeated the words without reference to the prophet . Of course He could do that being the Word...…...do you understand this?
Your reference to the disciples thinking Jesus was a ghost does not equate with the Holy Ghost that Jesus sent after he descended.
 

ForestGreenCook

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The words here 'Spirit and Ghost' come from the same base word and it's a fascinating story how why the two different words are used. If you research this you'll see there are opposing opinions, even on your Q. Btw Billy Graham stated They are the same.
I have stated before that I do not study or reference any of man's interpretations, except the Greek translators, and the inspired scriptures. What I have overheard of Billy Graham's sermons, he preached a false doctrine. The scriptures prove themselves and if they seem to contradict, it would be our misinterpretation.
 
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My bust thought this was about a twix.
 
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All kidding aside.

In Your title thread you say Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost. the word Holy is what makes the difference thus Holy is Holy not much of a difference IMO.
 

Lillywolf

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The Holy Ghost was not given until after Jesus ascended, but in Isaiah 63:11, "Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock; Where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him?
There's no difference between the title holy spirit and that of holy ghost.
 

TabinRivCA

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I have stated before that I do not study or reference any of man's interpretations, except the Greek translators, and the inspired scriptures. What I have overheard of Billy Graham's sermons, he preached a false doctrine. The scriptures prove themselves and if they seem to contradict, it would be our misinterpretation.
Billy Graham preached salvation and through his sermons brought prob millions to Jesus Christ.
 
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The Holy Ghost was not given until after Jesus ascended, but in Isaiah 63:11, "Then he remembered the days of old, Moses, and his people saying, Where is he that brought them up out of the sea with the shepherd of his flock; Where is he that put his Holy Spirit within him?

Many denomination teach the Holy Spirit as our treasure did not dwell in the earthen bodies of death until Acts 2.

2 Corinthians 4:7But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

Most denominations from my experience I believe base that on what David said in the Psalms... one verse (Psalm 51:11) "do not take away the Holy Spirit from me". As if Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God must be crucified again and again to public shame as if once was not enough to secure our salvation.

It seems David must of been saying; be quick to call me back to the salvation I already have with you so that then David could comfort or ease his own self (repent) as his word turned David to hear him who is invisible . Turn me and I shall be turned (Jeremiah 31:18)

In Ezekiel 37:13 he promises to open the graves to raise the old testament saints that did have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them as the glory that did come. They entered our heavenly home as our Holy City as the first resurrection many angels witnessed it.

1 Peter offers I believe an interesting fact of the Holy Spirit that worked in the old testament saint to both will and perfom the good pleasure of our God. Speaking to those who had already received the end of their faith the salvation of their souls not the beginning hearing God our first love.

Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. 1 Peter 1:9-11

The difference being.... we look back to that glorious day , they looked ahead by faith. the same Holy Spirit dwelling in them both of our treasures the excellency of the power of God, and not of us. lest any boast in self pride








Matthew 27:52

And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
 
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The words here 'Spirit and Ghost' come from the same base word and it's a fascinating story how why the two different words are used. If you research this you'll see there are opposing opinions, even on your Q. Btw Billy Graham stated They are the same.
The Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit of God. The word Christ meaning the anointing one. The same one who teaches us comforts us and brings to our mind the things he has taught as those who do have the mind of Christ (like minded) like in WWJD?
 

maxwel

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To put this in scientific terms...
the degree to which you say "Holy Ghost" is directly proportional to the scale of your charismatic fervor.

It's science.

Seriously... it's science.

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p_rehbein

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I have stated before that I do not study or reference any of man's interpretations, except the Greek translators, and the inspired scriptures. What I have overheard of Billy Graham's sermons, he preached a false doctrine. The scriptures prove themselves and if they seem to contradict, it would be our misinterpretation.
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Nehemiah6

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The comforter which is the Holy Ghost was not given until Jesus had ascended. How then do you explain Isaiah 63:11 when God put the Holy Spirit within Moses?
The Holy Spirit is God the Holy Spirit, and was with the Father, and with the Son since eternity past. Then we see the Holy Ghost at work at the very beginning of creation ( "And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters" Gen 1:2). and is subsequently mentioned throughout the Old Testament.

While the OT saints were justified by grace through faith, the Holy Spirit was not given as a gift to every believer under the Old Covenant, and could come and also depart from individuals. Moses and David both received the Spirit, as did most of the prophets, since when they spoke or wrote they were "moved by the Spirit".

However, God had promised to give the gift of the Holy Spirit to each and every believer within the New Covenant (and you will find this within the details of the New Covenant). He would also be the Paraclete or Comforter for every believer, meaning that Christ would not leave His people as orphans on earth. The Holy Ghost would become the indwelling Holy Spirit, never to depart from any believer.

At the same time, the Holy Spirit had a specific ministry on earth for the Gospel Age, but He could not be *poured out* upon all flesh until and unless Christ had finished His work of redemption, been resurrected, and also ascended to Heaven. And it was only after the ascension of Christ that both the Father and the Son could send down the Holy Spirit as promised.

Furthermore, there would be a specific day (the day of Pentecost) on which the Holy Spirit would come to earth in great power, in order to be given as a gift to everyone who believed. That is when the New Testament saints would be regenerated, receive the gifts of the Spirit, be "filled with the Spirit", and be empowered by the Spirit in order to "walk in the Spirit". The Spirit would also baptize believers into the Body of Christ, thus forming a new entity called "the Church" (with Jew and Gentile in one Body). This too was a mystery hidden from the OT prophets.

Just as Christ was crucified on the day of Passover, and resurrected on the Feast of First Fruits, the Holy Spirit was sent 50 days after Passover on the day of Pentecost to signify that the harvest feast of Pentecost was fulfilled on that day. But rather than a harvest of grains, there was a harvest of souls. And souls have been saved ever since by the preaching of the Gospel and the convincing and convicting power of the Holy Spirit. Both are SUPERNATURAL AGENTS to bring sinners to the Savior and complete the Church.
 

JaumeJ

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I do not wish to argue...
Another here has stated the same as I have but you seem to have itout for me...…..you agreed with the other, and this is like looking through glass to see truth, at least it is for me.