Book of Daniel, the key to eschatology

Don't confuse "the end of the age" with "the end of the world". They aren't synonymous.

I see Two 7 year periods in history
1. 3 ½ year of the ministry of Christ, after the cross the gospel is taken to the Jews first for 3 ½ years.
2. 3 ½ years from when John writes Revelation until the siege of Jerusalem begins then a 3 ½ year siege

Unfortunately, these two periods which belong to Daniel's 70th week are still in the future. Had they been already fulfilled, we would now be living in the New Heavens and the New Earth. Which would mean that universal righteousness and peace would be prevailing at this time.

Preterism is simply FANTASY. Yet too many cling to fantasies instead of believing what is actually revealed.

Unfortunately, these two periods which belong to Daniel's 70th week are still in the future. Had they been already fulfilled, we would now be living in the New Heavens and the New Earth. Which would mean that universal righteousness and peace would be prevailing at this time.

Preterism is simply FANTASY. Yet too many cling to fantasies instead of believing what is actually revealed.

Only a few problems with this

1. It was not worldwide
2. WW1 and WW2 made these things look like a picnic (even the prophesy of the time of Jacobs trouble said it is the greatest tribulation ever seen)
3. All life on earth was NOT threatened
4. Jesus did not return at the end (matt 24 along with Daniels to prophesies concerning the gentile kingdoms. The final of which would be destroyed by the return of christ himself)
5. Isreal did not repent and get restored

Jer 30:
7 Alas! For that day is great,
So that none is like it;
And it is the time of Jacob’s trouble,
But he shall be saved out of it.
8 ‘For it shall come to pass in that day,’
Says the Lord of hosts,
‘That I will break his yoke from your neck,
And will burst your bonds;
Foreigners shall no more enslave them.
9 But they shall serve the Lord their God,
And David their king,
Whom I will raise up for them.
10 ‘Therefore do not fear, O My servant Jacob,’ says the Lord,
‘Nor be dismayed, O Israel;
For behold, I will save you from afar,
And your seed from the land of their captivity.
Jacob shall return, have rest and be quiet,
And no one shall make him afraid.
11 For I am with you,’ says the Lord, ‘to save you;
Though I make a full end of all nations where I have scattered you,
Yet I will not make a complete end of you.
But I will correct you in justice,
And will not let you go altogether unpunished.’

This time period is the same as great tribulation (which by the way is only 3.5 years, as it comes in the middle of the week. AFTER the abomination which makes desolate is seen STANDING in the HOLY PLACE
I can read books and find anything I want to support my view. But of it does not add up, ie, if 2 + 2 does not equal 4, Then I have to own up that I believe in a lie or change my view.

Yes, the end times identified as last time or last days. They began with the renting of the veil . When Christ it is finished and the first resurrection began, the graves were opened the old testament saint were resurrected , the shadows became sight .

The time of reformation had come. The period of time used as a parable in which previously Jewish Kings. they stood in the holy place the unseen place of God as a abomination. It had come to a close . The new restored order had begun and others besides the Jews with now the Gentiles began to try and populate the Holy place again as unseen reserved for God alone not seen . Today there are many antichrists assuming the Holy place .

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

1 Peter 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you

2 Peter 3:3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

Christ will come as a thief in the night on the last day .No literal thousand years . The thousand years signify a unknown. The word thousand through out the scriptures signifies a unknow as to whatever is in view.

It's the unforgivable sin it seems to say that God is the devil or that the devil is God. Some expect the next event to take place is the man of sin while some think it is Christ. If the man of sin comes next all who wait for Christ will perceive him to be Christ and say he is God. Again if Christ is the next to come and one believes him to be the man of sin then they will commit the unforgivable sin because as some say that was fulfilled. The Jews await the Messiahs first coming,Islam wait's for Isa and the Mahdi, and we cant agree on who comes next... Lord help us I pray,require every man to prove his sayings that we are not beguiled.

I posted this before but here goes:
3 1/2 yrs = the ministry of Christ = 1290 days
3 1/2 yrs = to the beginning of war = 1290 days
+45 days
1335 total

*45 days into the seige, there was a lull while part of the Roman army departed, it was during this lull that the Christians in Jerusalem fled to Pella

For a start what Jesus said in Matthew 23-24 refers to more than one time period because he was answering more than one question that the disciples asked him. Their questions came just after
he mentioned the Temples destruction. If he wasn't talking about the one they were admiring
which one was he talking about?

The expression '' Abomination of Desolation '' was understood by the Jews to refer to what happened
to the Temple and City under Antiochus Epiphanes which was predicted by Daniel and was commemorated each year at the Festival of Dedication mentioned in Johns Gospel. Luke
substitutes this term by ''Jerusalem being surrounded by Armies'' because he was writing to Gentile readers who might be unfamiliar with the term and its meaning. Both Temple and City were considered to be a Holy Place

I know the physical second coming didn't happen then but the events of 70AD were a type and Shadow of what will happen in the future. In Revelation its called Armageddon and is centered around Jerusalem

When Jesus described the Tribulation as the greatest ever seen had he forgotten the Flood when
Noah and his passengers were the only living things to survive? Of course not! He was using a Hebrew
method of exaggeration to emphasize the seriousness of the event being discussed. The Bible contains
various forms of Grammar as well as types symbols and numbers which can be misleading when translated into another language.

Your quotation from Jeremiah doesn't mention a Millennium. On the new Earth promised in Revelation
every righteous person will have eternal life including David.

The Bible clearly describes the condition of the world leading up to the second coming. Jesus, Peter and Paul said that life will go on as usual for unbelievers until sudden destruction will overtake them. I havnt time here to quote the scriptures but will come back with them later although some have been quoted in other postings

1. An abomination should be understood from the jewish perspective. SInce Daniel is the one who prophesied of this occurance, and jesus mentioned in in Matt 24.
2. Your correct, Jesus was talking about different events.
3. The destruction of the city and temple was one of them (roman armies surrounding them)
4. The abomination is the other (we must Go to daniel 9 to get context) it will happen in the middle of a 7 year treaty of som kind. And the abomination will be PLACED IN THE HOLY PLACE by the prince who is to come.
5. According to Jesus, After this, There wil be great tribulation such as has never been seen before (your argument is with Jesus not me, the flood was quick, the tribulational war will continue for 3.5 years) And as Jesus said, because all life on earth will be threatened, He will return to put a stop to it himself (thus this period could not have happened at or near 70 AD)
As for jeremiah, You missed the whole point the prophet was making, This time was to get Israel to repent, and at the end of this period. Their sin will be complete and they will be restored. It does not have to say millenium, It DOES say they are restored (here on earth) Which means this is not the end of the earth, but the end of the age..

AMEN...it is obvious that Matthew 24 contains dual prophecy.........both directed at the Roman destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the age......

Sorry, I don't buy that view.....the end of the age did not come and go in 70 A.D.......and Daniel 12 is directed at the end of the age, not the 1st Century A.D.

I totally disagree with that version of eschatology. There are 4 main views of eschatology and that one has a very flimsy standing. The rest take place in the future.

But the day of the lord will come as a thief in the night
in which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise
and the elements shall melt with a fervant heat the Earth
also and the works that are therein shall be burned up
Seeing that all these things shall be be dissolved what manner
of persons ought you ye to be in all holy conversations and godliness
Looking for and hasting unto unto the coming of the day of the Lord
wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved and the elements
shall melt with fervant heat. Nevertheless we according to his promise
look for new heavens and a new Earth wherein dwelleth righteousness
Wherefore beloved seeing that you look for such things be diligent that
you may be found of him in peace without spot and blameless

2 Peter:3:10-14

But of the times and seasons brethren you have no need that I
write unto you For yourselves know that the day of the Lord
so cometh as a thief in the night For when they say peace and safety
sudden destruction cometh upon them as travail upon a woman with child
and they shall not escape. But ye brethren are not in darkness that that day should
overtake you as a thief

1 Thess: 5: 1-4

For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating
and drinking marrying and giving in marriage until the day Noe
entered the ark. And knew not until the flood came and took
them all away. So shall the coming of the Son of Man be

Matt 24: 38-39

And I saw a new heaven and a new Earth for the first heaven
and first earth had passed away and there was no more sea

Revelation 21:1

I'm looking for a New Earth others look for a 1000 year reign on the old one with king David
sitting on a wooden throne. To each their own

".......blessd is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1335 days!" Dan 12:12

after the 1290 days there was 45 days to 1335, those 45 days were a lull in the siege, allowing the Christians trapped in Jerusalem to escape to the hills of Pella. I hope you do agree that 1290 + 45 = 1335

I do, but I disagree with your application.......it is indicative to the little horn making war and wearing out the saints at the end of the age....[/QUOTE

Who do you say is the "little horn"??