Calvinist Kitchen...stirring the pot

I agree but you will never get the Catholic Church to agree. Back then there were no denominations. It was just the church.

Yes, and they had the Scriptures. As long as they stayed true to the Word of God they were fine, but it didn't take long for doctrinal heresy to grow. It was already present as Paul warned throughout the Epistles. There is the true Gospel - Paul penned it in I Corinthians 15:1-4 and warned about the other gospel in Galatians chapter 1.

The early elders created the creeds between 212 and 500. They serve 3 purposes.
1. Define what a Christian must believe.
2. Anything contrary is heresy.
3. Any Biblical issue outside of the creeds is to agree to disagree.

These disagreements have created the various gospel preaching denominations of today. Here is an example. Both sides have long texts with plenty of scripture references backing up their position. This is outside of the creeds so we just agree to disagree. The last 2 web sites defend their positions. Try and prove them wrong.

Quinquarticular Controversy
The diametrically opposed Calvinist and Armenian 5 points

Reformed/Calvinism
TULIP
1. Total depravity
2. Unconditional election
3. Limited atonement
4. Irresistible grace
5. Perserverance of the Saints

Armenianism
1. Free will or Human ability
2. Conditional election
3. Universal Redemption or General Atonement
4. The Holy Spirit can be Effectually Resisted
5. Falling from Grace

For a deeper discussion of the differences go to these web sites,

https://www.gotquestions.org/Calvinism-vs-Arminianism.html

Arminianism vs Calvinism Controversial Passages
https://www.xenos.org/essays/calvinism-arminianism-controversial-passages

There are denominations adhering to Calvinism, Arminianism, and parts of each creating a spectrum of different views of these issues.

Calvinism Armenianism debate
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Calvinist–Arminian_debate

Biblical Defense of Calvinism
https://www.fivesolas.com/tulipscriptures.htm

Biblical Defense of Arminianism
http://www.evidenceunseen.com/theology/calvinism-versus-arminianism/biblical-defense-of-arminianism/

Well, actually, it's not backwards though some of what FGC teaches is errant.

A person must be born again before they can see the kingdom of God, note John 3:3. This doesn't mean enter. It is "to understand, to perceive" and that comes from being regenerated. Thus, again, John 3:3.

God does a work on the heart of the person to see the truths of the Gospel, and their faith is evidence of conversion. God works this in the heart of the elect when they hear the Gospel.

Bibles do not save souls eternally, the only souls that are going to be saved eternally was accomplished on the cross and I don't think there were any bibles then, however, The gospel (bible) does deliver (save) souls here in this world, just not eternally.

First, show me where God doing this work is false, and show where no person can perceive these things until they are born again as false too.

FAITH comes by hearing, and hearing BY THE WORD

For by grace we have been saved through FAITH

Eternal life is given to those who HAVE FAITH.

Sorry My friend, But the word is what leads people to eternal salvation.

The church that Jesus set up has never been a part of the RCC.

They continue to resist the Holy Spirit and ignore Ephesians 1:12-14.

But really, I don't care.

They are not telling you the truth, God has somewhat to say to them . . .

"A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall not escape . . . A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he that speaketh lies shall perish" (Proverbs 19:5, 9).

For by grace are ye saved "Through faith". Whose faith? The faith "OF" Jesus (Gal 4:16). Our faith delivers us here on earth, but not eternally.

No, That is not even close to being true. It wouldl contradict the rest of the word which says he who believes (has faith) is not condemned, He who does not believe is condemned already.

My Faiht is the gift of God. As is My Salvation, it is ALL based on the grace of God.

Believe you me, Jesus has no faith in me..And his faith in me is NOT why I am saved.

If the gospel is spiritual, then the natural man cannot hear and discern it, he thinks that it is foolish.

No such thing as no denomination or sect. That would be simply impossible with this corrupted creation we live in. The kingdom of God which is not of this world never came by observation . Two or three that gather together in His name constitutes a denomination or sect.

The first sect listed on this side of the cross is the Nazarene sect . There were more than a hundred of sects in Jerusalem at the time of the first century reformation.

Because the Catholic were a sect they simply reverted back to the time period before the first century reformation. The same reforming agent.... "all things written in the law and the prophets"(sola scriptura) It as it is written destroyed their necromancy foundation just as in Judaism .You could say that Catholicism is a carbon copy of corrupted Judaism using different men in the end of the matter to make the word of God without effect.

Thats why The HS is sent, to help ALL men understand. (Thus they have no excuse) This why God is still God, His soverignty is still intact, (His will is STILL accomplished) and his LOVE is proven beyond all measure

Otherwise, he is just a respector of persons.. who CLAIMS he is a god of love, but in reality is not..

The natural man described in 1 Cor 2:14 has no faith in spiritual things. Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit and spiritual faith comes with regeneration.(Eph 2:5). Believing, repenting, accepting Jesus, confessing etc. only comes after regeneration.

What do you mean by Jesus has no faith in you and his faith is not why you are saved?