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Willie-T

Willie-T

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ladylynn said:

Willie, since when did it become a character flaw to read our books over again? I have tons of books I read over and over because I can't digest or remember it in just one reading. Reading and hearing God's Word too - over and over again helps me to retain it in my memory and then my heart. I think that is why it's a good idea to memorize Bible verses. Faith comes by hearing (and hearing and hearing) and hearing by Word of God. It's also a good idea to put in cds in your car while driving to hear the Word of God. It's good to have Christian music to uplift the heart to keep us reminded of His love for us and His instruction for us. Then we can not only remember it by the memorization but putting a tune to it also helps retain it in our memory.
I also constantly go to the Strong's concordance and different Bible commentary too. I like the Ryrie Study Bible NASB version probably because I've been using it longest and find it easy to understand (although I don't agree with all Mr.Ryrie says) I so respect him as a man of God and am so thankful for my different study Bibles.

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Well, as I've said before, the REAL complaint many people offer is often NOT truly what they say it is in their initial posts. (In fact, it USUALLY isn't.) I seldom give much credence to early gripes. As I listen and follow a thread... or sometimes two or three, many people's deeper disturbances with a thing begin to surface.
 
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ladylynn

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Willie-T said:
Well, as I've said before, the REAL complaint many people offer is often NOT truly what they say it is in their initial posts. (In fact, it USUALLY isn't.) I seldom give much credence to early gripes. As I listen and follow a thread... or sometimes or three, many people's deeper disturbances with a thing begin to surface.
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What do you think is the deeper meaning of such opposition? Even when answers are given there is no comment or even acknowledgment to the answer. :confused:
 
Willie-T

Willie-T

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ladylynn said:
What do you think is the deeper meaning of such opposition? Even when answers are given there is no comment or even acknowledgment to the answer. :confused:
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I don't think there is any ONE reason. Fear, for some... pride, for others,.... tradition, maybe... stubbornness.... comfort in the familiar,.... family pressure,... or even just plain old ignorance. Who knows?
 
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shotgunner

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Stephen63 said:
It keeps amazing me how televangelists just pop up on national TV already rich & successful, & nobody ever seems to question how they got there, or who's footing the bill.

Before anyone says something blasphemous like "God did it", do some biblical research of how many people God used in scripture were super rich, or even "upper middle class"

Jeremiah might have started off rich or upper middle class when called, but was rejected by his family & disowned.
Matthew was rich when he was called, but quit his job to follow Jesus. Where did that leave him?

Paul states plainly that most of the apostles worked a trade & received love offerings from the churches.

When a televangelist is rich, & doesn't practice charity towards the poor, there's something he loves more than God.

1 Corinthians 1:17-31 (KJV) [SUP]17 [/SUP]For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? [SUP]21 [/SUP]For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: [SUP]23 [/SUP]But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; [SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. [SUP]26 [/SUP]For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: [SUP]27 [/SUP]But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; [SUP]28 [/SUP]And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: [SUP]29 [/SUP]That no flesh should glory in his presence. [SUP]30 [/SUP]But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: [SUP]31 [/SUP]That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
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Yes, and there's even more in the bible that started off with nothing and God made them rich, Abraham, Jacob, David, Joseph, just to name a few. Of coarse there are false teachers but don't judge all as false just because they are wealthy or on TV. Some of these men I know personally and they have given much of their lives and finances for the gospel and God has richly blessed them.
 
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Budman said:
Of course man has a choice, but that's not WOF, NICI, is about. We supposedly have the authority through faith, and the power of our words, to command things to be, and they shall be. Regardless of the participation of others.

Many WOF teachers, like Hagin, taught that God is obligated to respond to our "creative" words. Such teaching is carried on by the Hagin family, and many others such as Hinn, Copeland, and Meyer.
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Please somebody there?
 
Laish

Laish

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This is a old thread .
The OP and many others are not here anymore.
Blessings
Bill
 
JaumeJ

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If a topic is worthy of discussion it is never dead.

Topics, various, resurge all of the time...…...right? Think!
 
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oldethennew

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tanakh said:
I miss Willie T
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Yes Tanakh,
we miss so many of the lovely and wonderful Christians
who no longer post here - we pray that they are
well and at peace in their lives...
 
cv5

cv5

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Stephen63 said:
It keeps amazing me how televangelists just pop up on national TV already rich & successful, & nobody ever seems to question how they got there, or who's footing the bill.

Before anyone says something blasphemous like "God did it", do some biblical research of how many people God used in scripture were super rich, or even "upper middle class"

Jeremiah might have started off rich or upper middle class when called, but was rejected by his family & disowned.
Matthew was rich when he was called, but quit his job to follow Jesus. Where did that leave him?

Paul states plainly that most of the apostles worked a trade & received love offerings from the churches.

When a televangelist is rich, & doesn't practice charity towards the poor, there's something he loves more than God.

1 Corinthians 1:17-31 (KJV) [SUP]17 [/SUP]For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. [SUP]19 [/SUP]For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent. [SUP]20 [/SUP]Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? [SUP]21 [/SUP]For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: [SUP]23 [/SUP]But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; [SUP]24 [/SUP]But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men. [SUP]26 [/SUP]For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: [SUP]27 [/SUP]But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; [SUP]28 [/SUP]And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: [SUP]29 [/SUP]That no flesh should glory in his presence. [SUP]30 [/SUP]But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: [SUP]31 [/SUP]That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
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Spot on.
 
tanakh

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oldethennew said:
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Yes Tanakh,
we miss so many of the lovely and wonderful Christians
who no longer post here - we pray that they are
well and at peace in their lives...
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He showed me where to find a key to opening the Bible. I'm still using it
 
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oldethennew

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AMEN - so many 'teachers' that we have been blessed with'...
may Yeshua bless them in return...
:):)
 
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