Not By Works

Its sad how people will twist scripture to prove to themselves they are right, instead of taking it for what it says.

Paul also called himself the chief of all sinners. This is how paul looked at himself.. For anyone to look and think they are no longer a sinner, they have some major issues.

The given reason for the filthy rags concept is God can see into our sinful nature while doing our good works and sees we are not pure in our motives.

Filthy rags

The term “filthy rags” is quite strong. The word filthy is a translation of the Hebrew word iddah, which literally means “the bodily fluids from a woman’s menstrual cycle.” The word rags is a translation of begged, meaning “a rag or garment.” Therefore, these “righteous acts” are considered by God as repugnant as a soiled feminine hygiene product (Got questions)

I say only filthy when we stand before God and claim works to be saved.

Yes we are to do good works.
The Bible states that clearly.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them

Anything out of v8-9 that we do to earn salvation is basically the same as holding a rag that contains the fluid from a woman's menstrual cycle and want to God "Look at what I did"

It's disgusting in the eyes of God, makes a mockery of those hours that Jesus hung on the cross.

He shed his blood and it's his blood that saves us.

Martin Luther said, “The most damnable and pernicious heresy that has ever plagued the mind of man is that somehow he can make himself good enough to deserve to live forever with an all-holy God.”

Hi E-g, you are so right about how some take the view that they are no longer a sinner, they minimize the
depth and breadth and damage that sin can do. Ultimately it caused the crucifixion of our Savior Jesus Christ,
"who knew no sin."

God said Job was an upright and blameless man; Job new the depth, breadth, and damage that sin can do, he had a proper perspective of sin, and so did the Apostle Paul.

Job1:1
"There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil."

Job40:3,4
3) Then Job answered the LORD, and said,4) Behold, I am vile; what shall I answer thee? I will lay mine hand upon my mouth.

He is speaking in the present historic tense in chapter seven. We know this Because He makes the proclamation to be free from the Law of sin and death that the righteousness of the Law might be fulled in us who walk after the spirit and not after the flesh.

Paul claims he had been Made me free from the law of sin and death. No longer in captivity to the Law of sin which which is in His members. HE HAS BEEN MADE FREE!

Set free from the Law of sin and death. Our old man crucified with with HIM that the Body of Sin be destroyed. That Hence forth we should not serve sin.

Amen, Even thr great prophet Isaiah fell to his knees, considering himself a man of unclean lips. As did Daniel and John when they met just an angel. And these people think they will stand proudly when they see God..

In their dreams!

Do you still sin? Then you're walking after the flesh. And you'll never be able to escape that fact, no matter how you try to twist it.



Are you free from sinning? Paul said of himself, "I am the chief of sinners." Not "I was".



You love giving the impression you are not a "slave" to sin, and yet we both know you sin every single day of your life.

The first line of your signature reminds me of the hymn "Saved by Grace". It contains the line "saved a wretch like me". The author was the captain of a slave ship. At times during a bad storm captains would have some cargo thrown overboard to keep the ship afloat. He did this with some of the slaves he was carrying at times. Later he became a Christian and then wrote this song about himself.

But BM, the Christ of the Bible already "tacked on" requirements to receive this Gift

"Not everyone who claims belief (calls Him "Lord" , supreme in authority) receives His Free Gift.

What is more important, letting the Word's of the Christ guide our footsteps, or religious tradition guiding our footsteps?

Faith in Him is the only requirement.



I'm not disputing that at all. There are certainly false converts. There are plenty of those who claim to be Christians through faith, but instead think that doing good works will ensure their ultimate salvation.



You consistently confuse Jesus speaking of the saved and the unsaved. Your discernment is rather abysmal.

Jesus summed it up as plain as possible- those who believe are saved, those who do not believe are condemned.

that's it. all these other options that folks come up with are in denial of this plain language.

Amen brother

Thinking they are making God happy. They are in reality shaming God and making a mockery of he cross.

Jesus summed it up as plain as possible- those who believe are saved, those who do not believe are condemned.

that's it. all these other options that folks come up with are in denial of this plain language.

think about this- the Disciples were still pestering Jesus about Israel just moments before he ascended.

the jews of Christ's time were expecting the Messiah to defeat Rome and restore David's kingdom.

but, what did the angel say of Jesus- " he will save His people from their sins".

that is what was said.

what was not said - " He will show His people how to properly keep the Torah, and that will save them from their sins."

Faith in Him is the only requirement.



I'm not disputing that at all. There are certainly false converts. There are plenty of those who claim to be Christians through faith, but instead think that doing good works will ensure their ultimate salvation.



You consistently confuse Jesus speaking of the saved and the unsaved. Your discernment is rather abysmal.

[19] Thou believest that there is one God. Thou dost well: the devils also believe and tremble. [20] But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?