Not By Works

The proof is they were giants. These giants are all through Scripture. Certainly not just Goliath.

Here is an innocuous one you never even realized. David has these dudes lie down. And if you were taller than X you were killed. Apparently David had knowledge that not all of these particular tribes were infected. Just as some genetic traits aren't always inherited.

2 Samuel 8 New King James Version (NKJV)
David’s Further Conquests
8 After this it came to pass that David [a]attacked the Philistines and subdued them. And David took [b]Metheg Ammah from the hand of the Philistines.

2 Then he defeated Moab. Forcing them down to the ground, he measured them off with a line. With two lines he measured off those to be put to death, and with one full line those to be kept alive. So the Moabites became David’s servants, and brought tribute.

It's also a known and admitted fact that human cloning is happening. The CIA admitted that a long time ago. Since we know that clones are soul-less, then what animates them?

The answer that no one wants to believe is: demons, more accurately, fallen angels who desperately seek human bodies to inhabit. What better way to hide in plain sight, and just have them be thought of as eccentric or weird, instead of realizing that demons indeed walk among us, in soul-less human forms.

What happened to Noah's brothers and sisters? Their DNA was clean too, right? Clean DNA earns favor in God's eyes, right? I didn't see them get on the ark. All others didn't believe the preaching of Noahbecause of their DNA? Why preach 120 years to bad DNA drones? The elect have good DNA, the non elect bad DNA. Serpent seed doctrine &c &c &c to infinitum is the absurdity.

No thanks, I'll stick with sound doctrine, not myths and fables, 2 Timothy 4:1-4.

I am not sure that just because they were giant proves they had angel DNA. I think it just means they were "Large" Just like we see "small" people today

The proof is they were giants. These giants are all through Scripture. Certainly not just Goliath.

Here is an innocuous one you never even realized. David has these dudes lie down. And if you were taller than X you were killed. Apparently David had knowledge that not all of these particular tribes were infected. Just as some genetic traits aren't always inherited.

2 Samuel 8 New King James Version (NKJV)
David’s Further Conquests
8 After this it came to pass that David [a]attacked the Philistines and subdued them. And David took [b]Metheg Ammah from the hand of the Philistines.

2 Then he defeated Moab. Forcing them down to the ground, he measured them off with a line. With two lines he measured off those to be put to death, and with one full line those to be kept alive. So the Moabites became David’s servants, and brought tribute.

So I answered. Of course you don't like my answer, but that's moot.

Now tell me why the Angels are in chains in Tartarus right now. What was the offense they committed?

This dude slept in an 15-18 foot bed!!! We can speculate him to have been at least 12 feet tall. There is no reason to even mention his bed except to stress just how huge he was.

King Og Defeated
3 “Then we turned and went up the road to Bashan; and Og king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei. 2 And the Lord said to me, ‘Do not fear him, for I have delivered him and all his people and his land into your hand; you shall do to him as you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who dwelt at Heshbon.’

3 “So the Lord our God also delivered into our hands Og king of Bashan, with all his people, and we [a]attacked him until he had no survivors remaining. 4 And we took all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls, gates, and bars, besides a great many rural towns. 6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children of every city. 7 But all the livestock and the spoil of the cities we took as booty for ourselves.

8 “And at that time we took the land from the hand of the two kings of the Amorites who were on this side of the Jordan, from the River Arnon to Mount Hermon 9 (the Sidonians call Hermon Sirion, and the Amorites call it Senir), 10 all the cities of the plain, all Gilead, and all Bashan, as far as Salcah and Edrei, cities of the kingdom of Og in Bashan.

11 “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the [b]giants. Indeed his bedstead was an iron bedstead. (Is it not in Rabbah of the people of Ammon?) Nine cubits is its length and four cubits its width, according to the standard cubit.

This dude slept in an 15-18 foot bed!!! We can speculate him to have been at least 12 feet tall. There is no reason to even mention his bed except to stress just how huge he was.

King Og Defeated
3 “Then we turned and went up the road to Bashan; and Og king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei. 2 And the Lord said to me, ‘Do not fear him, for I have delivered him and all his people and his land into your hand; you shall do to him as you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who dwelt at Heshbon.’

3 “So the Lord our God also delivered into our hands Og king of Bashan, with all his people, and we [a]attacked him until he had no survivors remaining. 4 And we took all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls, gates, and bars, besides a great many rural towns. 6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children of every city. 7 But all the livestock and the spoil of the cities we took as booty for ourselves.

8 “And at that time we took the land from the hand of the two kings of the Amorites who were on this side of the Jordan, from the River Arnon to Mount Hermon 9 (the Sidonians call Hermon Sirion, and the Amorites call it Senir), 10 all the cities of the plain, all Gilead, and all Bashan, as far as Salcah and Edrei, cities of the kingdom of Og in Bashan.

11 “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the [b]giants. Indeed his bedstead was an iron bedstead. (Is it not in Rabbah of the people of Ammon?) Nine cubits is its length and four cubits its width, according to the standard cubit.

So I answered. Of course you don't like my answer, but that's moot.

Now tell me why the Angels are in chains in Tartarus right now. What was the offense they committed?

I am not sure that just because they were giant proves they had angel DNA. I think it just means they were "Large" Just like we see "small" people today

Not only the people, but the produce was gigantic! Think about a bunch of grapes today and compare:
Numbers 13:23 Then they came to the [e]Valley of Eshcol, and there cut down a branch with one cluster of grapes; they carried it between two of them on a pole.

And the people were GIGANTIC!!! Why do you think the spies were afraid?

Numbers 13:
28 Nevertheless the people who dwell in the land are strong; the cities are fortified and very large; moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there. 29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the South; the Hittites, the Jebusites, and the Amorites dwell in the mountains; and the Canaanites dwell by the sea and along the banks of the Jordan.”

30 Then Caleb quieted the people before Moses, and said, “Let us go up at once and take possession, for we are well able to overcome it.”

31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we.” 32 And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. 33 There we saw the [h]giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like[i] grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

Now I know a 7 footer and some upper 6 foot guys. They be big!!! But in NO WAY would I describe myself as being a grasshopper in their sight.

Not only the people, but the produce was gigantic! Think about a bunch of grapes today and compare:
Numbers 13:23 Then they came to the [e]Valley of Eshcol, and there cut down a branch with one cluster of grapes; they carried it between two of them on a pole.

And the people were GIGANTIC!!! Why do you think the spies were afraid?

Numbers 13:
28 Nevertheless the people who dwell in the land are strong; the cities are fortified and very large; moreover we saw the descendants of Anak there. 29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the South; the Hittites, the Jebusites, and the Amorites dwell in the mountains; and the Canaanites dwell by the sea and along the banks of the Jordan.”

30 Then Caleb quieted the people before Moses, and said, “Let us go up at once and take possession, for we are well able to overcome it.”

31 But the men who had gone up with him said, “We are not able to go up against the people, for they are stronger than we.” 32 And they gave the children of Israel a bad report of the land which they had spied out, saying, “The land through which we have gone as spies is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of great stature. 33 There we saw the [h]giants (the descendants of Anak came from the giants); and we were like[i] grasshoppers in our own sight, and so we were in their sight.”

Now I know a 7 footer and some upper 6 foot guys. They be big!!! But in NO WAY would I describe myself as being a grasshopper in their sight.

This dude slept in an 15-18 foot bed!!! We can speculate him to have been at least 12 feet tall. There is no reason to even mention his bed except to stress just how huge he was.

King Og Defeated
3 “Then we turned and went up the road to Bashan; and Og king of Bashan came out against us, he and all his people, to battle at Edrei. 2 And the Lord said to me, ‘Do not fear him, for I have delivered him and all his people and his land into your hand; you shall do to him as you did to Sihon king of the Amorites, who dwelt at Heshbon.’

3 “So the Lord our God also delivered into our hands Og king of Bashan, with all his people, and we [a]attacked him until he had no survivors remaining. 4 And we took all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. 5 All these cities were fortified with high walls, gates, and bars, besides a great many rural towns. 6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children of every city. 7 But all the livestock and the spoil of the cities we took as booty for ourselves.

8 “And at that time we took the land from the hand of the two kings of the Amorites who were on this side of the Jordan, from the River Arnon to Mount Hermon 9 (the Sidonians call Hermon Sirion, and the Amorites call it Senir), 10 all the cities of the plain, all Gilead, and all Bashan, as far as Salcah and Edrei, cities of the kingdom of Og in Bashan.

11 “For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of the [b]giants. Indeed his bedstead was an iron bedstead. (Is it not in Rabbah of the people of Ammon?) Nine cubits is its length and four cubits its width, according to the standard cubit.

Powerful evil ones huh?

Turn off the sci-fi channel (whatever medium it is) and crack open that dusty Bible sister!

It's moot because I prefer sound doctrine not sci-fi nonsense.

Also it could very easily express his wealth . In early near eastern writing the bed was also a symbolic of wealth and how many wives and children one had . Early Babylonians would write that someone had no bed meaning no offspring. Just a thought .
Blessings
Bill

Still does not prove they were half angel brother. thats all I am saying.

Ummm ... Where did I say he was sinless?

Yeah I think the animals were corrupted as well. Even after the flood. Tough red pill for many to swallow. I understand that.

I'm cool with getting strange looks and comments for holding such a view.