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TruthTalk

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GodsGrace101 said:
Agreed. It says a lot.
As I'm sure you know, paintings were used to teach about Jesus and His story.
People could not read in this era.
Ditto for the stained glass windows in churches that represented both persons and events.

Have a blessed Christmas!



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Thank you Grace101, agreed and I am thankful for those who produce the different types of art, I'm from a musical background but I believe all of the art forms raise our human senses and allows us to experience a more fulfilling daily life, enjoy your special Merry Christmas, God bless!
 
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I found a very old Picture where the ARTIST understood the History of the MAGI. He pictures the Arrival of the Magi with their ARMED TROOP ESCORT, as they arrived at Jerusalem. And HAROLD must have PANICKED, as his Army was away at a WAR, and all he had at that time was his PALACE GUARD.



Not sure, but it could be at the Vatican.

By the way, my way of Setting the Record Straight, is also My Way of Saying:


MERRY CHRISTMAS

TO ONE AND ALL.
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TruthTalk said:
Hi Grace101, love the art work of antiquity, it is an amazing form of communication.
Beautiful Nativity scene.

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NOW I NOTICE WHERE THE LAST PICTURE THAT I POSTED CAME FROM!

It is a close up of the painting in the CENTER Arch up top.

So the Vatican had the truth all along, and allowed the MYTH to show the Magi, rode in with no Guard on Camels, to Manger in the Cave. See the Young Child Jesus at the HOUSE.
 
dcontroversal

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VincentG said:
I gotta say don't you ever get tired of explaining our basics to people who haven't read their bible or have any relations with the Lord... I would really like to know since I encounter this allllll the time?!
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Never....I will swing this sword until hell freezes over and the gates are welded shut......in other words....I will never quit standing against all of the false peddled gospels that have no power to save....ever.......!
 
BillG

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dcontroversal said:
Never....I will swing this sword until hell freezes over and the gates are welded shut......in other words....I will never quit standing against all of the false peddled gospels that have no power to save....ever.......!
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Shove off.

I want 4000 page post
 
dcontroversal

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GodsGrace101 said:
How does a yes answer make doctrine fail??
1 John 1:9
1 John 2:1

If Jesus gave a remedy for sin, it means He knew we would always need that remedy.
John 20:23
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When one peddles the proverbial "I don't sin crap" to admit they do and their whole argument falls apart!
 
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TruthTalk said:
Thank you Grace101, agreed and I am thankful for those who produce the different types of art, I'm from a musical background but I believe all of the art forms raise our human senses and allows us to experience a more fulfilling daily life, enjoy your special Merry Christmas, God bless!
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I'm from a musical background as well.
Used to play the piano.

But had to give it up for health reasons.

My next door neighbor threatened to break my fingers
 
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dcontroversal said:
Never....I will swing this sword until hell freezes over and the gates are welded shut......in other words....I will never quit standing against all of the false peddled gospels that have no power to save....ever.......!
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Can a DEAD FAITH save?
 
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dcontroversal said:
hah

ahahahahhhahahhahajjahhahha go for it mate
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Hey DC my friend.

God bless you bro.
Keep preaching the truth.
Are you still in Australia?
If so have a great Christmas Day.
The day we think of Jesus and give thanks and praise that he came to save us.

Tomorrow our family has a birthday cake with candles and we sing Happy Birthday to Jesus.

Done that with our 4 kids since they were born.

It's all about Jesus and what he has done.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Never....I will swing this sword until hell freezes over and the gates are welded shut......in other words....I will never quit standing against all of the false peddled gospels that have no power to save....ever.......!
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... HE WILL PUNISH THOSE WHO DO NOT KNOW GOD AND DO NOT OBEY THE GOSPEL OF OUR LORD JESUS. THEY WILL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION and shut out from the presence of the Lord and from the majesty of his power on the day he comes to be glorified in his holy people and to be marveled at among all those who have believed. This includes you, because you believed our testimony to you. With this in mind, we constantly pray for you, that our God may count you worthy of his calling, and that by his power he may fulfill every good purpose of yours and every act prompted by your faith. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-11

Who are those who DO NOTt KNOW God and DO NOT OBEY the Gospel of our LORD Jesus?

...We know that WE HAVE COME TO KNOW HIM IF WE OBEY HIS COMMANDS. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is A LIAR, AND THE TRUTH IS NOT IN HIM. 1 John 2:3-4

...They claim to know God, but BY THEIR ACTIONS THEY DENY HIM. They are detestable, DISOBEDIENT and unfit for doing anything good. Titus 1:16

...They are godless men, who change the grace of our God into a license for immorality and DENY JESUS CHRIST our only Sovereign and Lord. Jude 1:4

...But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” Revelation 21:8

...Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of such things God’s wrath comes on those who are disobedient.7 Therefore do not be partners with them. Ephesians5:6
 
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Argueless said:
Can a DEAD FAITH save?
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a dead faith? well, I could just remember something similar to that ...when the apostles told Jesus that there were others preaching the gospel but were not Apostles and Jesus said something in the line of if they are preaching the right gospel it doesn't matter its just more people spreading the Gospel...I can look up the exact words if you want .. or you can..let me know if you need help with that.
 
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dcontroversal said:
It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!

English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
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don't forget to mention this--->
Isaiah 64:5-7 New International Version (NIV)
5 You come to the help of those who gladly do right,
who remember your ways.
But when we continued to sin against them,
you were angry.
How then can we be saved?
6 All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
7 No one calls on your name
or strives to lay hold of you;
for you have hidden your face from us
and have given us over to[a] our sins.
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BillG said:
Hey DC my friend.

God bless you bro.
Keep preaching the truth.
Are you still in Australia?
If so have a great Christmas Day.
The day we think of Jesus and give thanks and praise that he came to save us.

Tomorrow our family has a birthday cake with candles and we sing Happy Birthday to Jesus.

Done that with our 4 kids since they were born.

It's all about Jesus and what he has done.
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Yeah still in AU.....watching a parade in Adelade on tv right now ....840 Am 25th.....here till the 14th of Jan.....little over 6 weeks this trip mate
 
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VincentG said:
don't forget to mention this--->
Isaiah 64:5-7 New International Version (NIV)
5 You come to the help of those who gladly do right,
who remember your ways.
But when we continued to sin against them,
you were angry.
How then can we be saved?
6 All of us have become like one who is unclean,
and all our righteous acts are like filthy rags;
we all shrivel up like a leaf,
and like the wind our sins sweep us away.
7 No one calls on your name
or strives to lay hold of you;
for you have hidden your face from us
and have given us over to[a] our sins.
:whistle:
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Oh it has been mentioned.....there is not a just man upon the earth that does doog and sins not.....exactly why we need the righteousness of Christ imputed by faith to stand justified before God!
 
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