How do I lose my SALVATION?

Paul warned us and also John in the Revelation's warned us the in the last days there will be a great falling away. Peter claimed in his 2nd Epistle that some have misunderstood Paul's message and in turn distorted it. He warned it would lead to their destruction. Makes one think Peter knew about this belief in thinking we have a license to sin. I doubt he would warn us that we are distorting Paul's message (I can only assume the message of Grace since most know Paul by it) if it were not true.

But believers and the saved aren't cucumbers. We can still choose whom to serve or follow. A dog returns to its vomit. But not a cucumber. Can't choose.

Well then apologize by sending me some cheetos and I will forgive.
I just burst into laugher because i could like imagine a cucumber becoming a person in white robes

But believers and the saved aren't cucumbers. We can still choose whom to serve or follow. A dog returns to its vomit. But not a cucumber. Can't choose.

I see Peter's Epistles are a hot topic today. But there is a definite reason why Peter gave such a warning. It very well could mean that we have misunderstand Paul's message of Grace and distorted it. If that is true, how many souls are burning in hell thinking they had guaranteed salvation?

None of these things say people will lose salvation.

The great falling away is the loss of people in the church, Not because they lost salvation, But because the christians died and their children did not replace them, because they wanted nothing to do with God (wee see this happening today, with all the empty churhc buildings which are sitting there rotting)

If people misunderstand pauls message (anbd I agree they have) then they have never been saved, They have not lost it.

Who believes we have a license to sin? The people who are entrusting God in faith do not.. The people who have no faith in God and are either of those who think they say a prayer and magically they are saved no matter what (belief only, no repentance or faith) or those who think they have to work hard and water down the law so they fit into the law 9there faith is in self not God) and again, these people never had salvation they did not lose it.

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If this is towards me, I am asking these questions because of these 2 verses.

2 Peter 3:
15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him.

16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Peter claims we are distorting the message of Paul, maybe even his Grace message, and he continues warning it will bring destruction. If we have eternal salvation by understanding Paul's message, why is Peter claiming we could be distorting that message for our own desire which will actually bring us destruction, not eternal salvation?

If we have actually misunderstood Paul and distorted his message, then we have misunderstood that we have guaranteed salvation. I am not saying we are losing our salvation, I am saying if we misunderstood the message, maybe we misunderstood we can sin as much as we want and still have a guarantee.

Well, that just puts us in a pickle doesn't it?

Ok just reading the whoe chapter Peters just saying some people are ignoring what Paul says and dont understand things so they are missing out on salvation message not that they are losing it. If we willfully ignore the gospel and go after a false one then destruction is the consequence of that. Paul is saying the same message of salvation that Jesus is saying, he was actually commissioned by Jesus himself as an apostle to share the gospel esp to Gentiles. Many Jews hearing him couldnt understand this...they were scoffers. Why would Jesus save the gentiles or heathens?

Many times Peter says be mindful. Dont ignore what God says, dont be led away by human errors. Remember the gospel thats been told to you by the apostles.

If you think this, then you have misunderstood paul.

Paul says we are sealed by the spirit UNTIL the day of Christ
Paul says we HAVE BEEN GIVEN an inheritance which is incorruptable and will never fade awy
Paul says we have BEEN PERFECED FOREVER while we are in the process off being sanctified
Paul says he who began a good work in us WILL COMPLETE it UNTIL the DAY OF CHRIST

And i have just started to show how paul says we are assured, There are many more, but this is enough

The fact is,, You can not be GOOD ENOUGH (not sin enough) to continue to earn salvation. You need to take the focus of how good you think you are, and realise who sinful you really are (pauls messag to the jews Who also thought they could be good enough)

I believe in the abundant Grace of God, I believe in His undeniable Mercy, but Peter has me concerned that we could be distorting Paul's message. And if we have, then maybe the commit sin and ask for forgiveness routine is not so bad after all.

I see Peter's Epistles are a hot topic today. But there is a definite reason why Peter gave such a warning. It very well could mean that we have misunderstand Paul's message of Grace and distorted it. If that is true, how many souls are burning in hell thinking they had guaranteed salvation?

I understand what Paul said. I also understand that we are distorting Paul's message. I am just looking at the happy medium here and trying to find the silver lining.

Hmmm, have you read where Jesus said He was here to save us by the Grace of God?
Because I can only find where He claims it's by the Mercy of God. Matthew 28:19 is Jesus instructing His Disciples to go into all nations (which means Jew/Gentile nations) and teach them. Since Jesus never taught Grace specifically, He taught Mercy, maybe we have distorted Paul's message after all.

I would suggest reading Hebrews and learning about Jesus' role as your High Priest (mediator between you and God) to understand why it is that you're forgiven of your sins and justified before God. This will ease your worries. When you understand how the blood of Christ has granted you the remission of your sins, you can rejoice at the verse that says, "where remission of these (sin) is, there is no more offering for sin."

Consider God's witness of His Son.

1 John 5:9-12 King James Version (KJV)

9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
10 He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

There is no happy medium my friend, thats the problem with many in the church, they want to appease poeple. Not just take paul at his word. Thus we have all these different gospel churches all with different means to heaven.

If Paul said those things, we should believe him, and place our faith in those things. If we can not do that, Then we shoudl not change the word. We shoudl be asking ourselves why we can not agree with paul.

But believers and the saved aren't cucumbers. We can still choose whom to serve or follow. A dog returns to its vomit. But not a cucumber. Can't choose.

Do you understand what Grace is? Grace is a result of mercy. You can not have grace apart from Mercy