How do I lose my SALVATION?
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I was talking about after a person gets saved.
Before we get saved,men still have a choice that they can make because every man knows that there Is a GOD,the creation Itself declares It so then there Is no excuse seeing that we have sense knowledge,we can decide to choose,and no one Is SO depraved that they can’t make a common sense choice.
Before we get saved,men still have a choice that they can make because every man knows that there Is a GOD,the creation Itself declares It so then there Is no excuse seeing that we have sense knowledge,we can decide to choose,and no one Is SO depraved that they can’t make a common sense choice.
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I didn't stutter! Either you have it or you do not. If you do not, keep looking because you need it.
Acts 19:2-5 "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
Acts 19:2-5 "He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus."
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You need the Holy Spirit to be saved. None of the disciples had that until Pentecost. 
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Romans 2:14-15
King James Version
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
King James Version
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
That is very interesting. Can a person have a mental ascent without being convicted by the Holy Spirit? Does "logic" alone make people "get saved", or is it conviction of the heart that makes people get saved?
Salvation... the Jesus story is not logical.... some man claiming to be died over 2000 years ago. And He will "SAVE" us!?!
Salvation... the Jesus story is not logical.... some man claiming to be died over 2000 years ago. And He will "SAVE" us!?!
Yes GOD convicts but the question someone might ask Is how does this look,no one can come to JESUS unless the Father who sent JESUS draws them?
IMO,that means that Inwardly the person has to be sincere on the heart level In TRUTH and GOD has put It In every person to know that there Is GOD.
IMO,that means that Inwardly the person has to be sincere on the heart level In TRUTH and GOD has put It In every person to know that there Is GOD.
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I was wondering that as well.
The Tent of Meeting was a place where Moses (and Joshua) could experience the presence of God.
I love this scripture.
Exodus 33:10-11
Whenever the people saw the pillar of cloud standing at the entrance to the tent, they all stood and worshiped, each at the entrance to their tent. 11 The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.
The Tent of Meeting was a place where Moses (and Joshua) could experience the presence of God.
I love this scripture.
Exodus 33:10-11
Whenever the people saw the pillar of cloud standing at the entrance to the tent, they all stood and worshiped, each at the entrance to their tent. 11 The Lord would speak to Moses face to face, as one speaks to a friend. Then Moses would return to the camp, but his young aide Joshua son of Nun did not leave the tent.
Salvation is by grace through faith. Mental ascent does not convert the soul. If you have never been convicted by the Holy Spirit about your sin, Christ's righteousness and the certain judgment of God upon sin you have never been saved.
What is logical about dying in your sins and spending eternity apart from God? Especially in light of the plan that God
up for man to be redeemed
For the cause of Christ
Roger
What is logical about dying in your sins and spending eternity apart from God? Especially in light of the plan that God
up for man to be redeemed
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I would define "mental ascent" as an acknowledgement of the existence of God or the validity of the Bible and the church, but without an inner change having occurred. It is one thing to believe that there is a God, quite another to embrace the gospel message as your own. Heart knowledge rather than merely head knowledge. Missing heaven by one foot, as the saying goes. The distance between head and heart.
No Demi, because our salvation is not based on us - it's based on what Jesus accomplished on the cross. Our involvement begins and ends with either initial acceptance of His salvation or ultimate rejection of it at death. Salvation is a gift. If it were anything else it would be something we could earn and boast about. If we can't earn it before conversion, we can't earn (keep) it after conversion through our behavior. If so, it would indeed be a wage and not a gift. (Romans 4:4)
Being Born Again literally means to be "born from above". It refers to God's giving of eternal life to the one who simply believes in Jesus for it. (Titus 3:5). We thus are Justified - which means God has declared righteous all who believe in Jesus. He acquits us and pronounces a verdict of "not guilty". And that verdict lasts for eternity.
We have been completely reconciled to God. Our alienation and estrangement that formally existed between us and God is totally eradicated. (2 Corinthians 5:19). We have been forgiven of all sins - past, present, and future. Even the sin of backsliding or future rejection of Christ. God takes it a step further and said He would no longer even remember our sins (Hebrews 10:17). No longer means not now, nor in the future.
We have been adopted into God's family (Romans 8:14) and can never become "unadopted". Jesus said no one (that including us) - can snatch us from His hand, or the Father's hand. (John 10:28-29)
In fact, the Bible says nothing in all creation (which including us - as we are created beings) can separate us from the love of God in Christ. (Romans 8:38-39)
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