Praying in Tongues

I come from a Pentecostal background. But for the life of me, as if I was standing before God writing this, I never ever heard this "You must speak in Tongues" to be saved concept preached or taught. I just don't know who told you this and why they would tell you this. Half of the typical Pentecostal congregations have never spoken in Tongues.

Yes, I provided scripture of what Jesus and Paul said. But it has never been a requirement for being saved that you must speak in Tongues.

What is preached that I am fully aware of concerning Tongues, is it has to be the real deal. You are so connected to God and just lose the ability to speak English even though you are still praying verbally. You won't even be aware of what you are doing, because you are focused too much on that connection you are experiencing with God. And if you ever can lose yourself in God, forgetting what is around you, don't care about who or what is around you, and you keep pursuing God, it can happen to anyone.

2 Samuel 12:22-23
22 And he said, “While the child was alive, I fasted and wept; for I said, ‘Who can tell whether the Lord will be gracious to me, that the child may live?’ 23 But now he is dead; why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me.”

One day you are going to see your kids in heaven.
And they are going to whole and free from disease.
Your gonna walk with them.
On the new earth and heaven.
One minute in the USA then Australia (or whatever cities or places there will be).

No tests, no oxygen pumps, no trips to a hospital, no more fear, no more pain, no more disease.

Eternity called your 2 home, eternity will call your 3rd home and eternity will call you and your wife home.

Then you have eternity together

When we've been there ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun,
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.

When that happens you all have eternity together.

They heard prophecy (God's interpretation) in their own tongue. The unseen sign.... they believed God in their heart . .

The sign of God mocking those who refused to hear the word of God and therefore believe God , through prophecy, confirms those who will not hear prophecy in any tongue or language to include Hebrew .The law is clear as to what the sign points to and what it does confirm.

In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are for a sign, "not to them" that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.1 Corinthians 14;21-22

lol then it does not matter what you saw either or heard or read. The people I listed are not authoritative , they are in the context of Church History and complement the word of God. LISTEN UP ALL NOOSE has yet again established himself as the Authenticator of History. You need not study or even read your Bible the NEW: NKLT has come out “ NOOSE Knows Living Translation”.


Really? So you think the context of Matthew 23 is we are not to call anyone “Teacher “? You are special kind of person. Jesus was speaking to who? And Jesus was talking about who? You see, the context of Matthew 23 and knowing what the authorial intent is you have to study. Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees. It was not that Jesus said not to call any man “teacher” it was that the Pharisees did not earn the right to be called it why? Because they were Hypocrites. IF we were not to call anyone “Teacher” Why is it we are told in scripture Eph 4:11-12

“ 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

You love to take one verse out of context, then tell us it does not matter what we read in context to historical documents.

I did not say revival is proof of tongues, good try interjecting a false narrative. I said the proof of the gift of the Holy Spirit are well -known in Church History and the Move of God by those who were Spirit filled. You discredit what is known and taught in just about ever Theological school and historically documented of what the church has done over the centuries. Tongues is not a false teaching. it is in the word of God found in Acts 2 and 10 and 1cor chapter 12 to 14. if you were right there would not be any moves of God ever. Nor would we be able to speak of the great men of have gave their lives for the Gospel. Your issue is with misuse of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Of course you would attack the moves of God they are Testimonies of men and women who have seen the Charismata and the pneumatka. AND gave glory to God . And were saved. You try to decided what gifts are for today and try hide as you rip out the word of God.

Buster your deliberate exclusion of the link that would allow the reader to easily access my related responses reveals your bias and hypocrisy. Respect of persons. I can easily misrepresent you as well.

And I bet my bottom dollar it ain't the last either.

Since you are posting false teachings, can you split them up? Easier to read and respond to.
So, you post your response. I expose its stupidity. Then you post another. Again, I expose its stupidity.
Concerning your silly Experience statement, read John 3.1-3.

Wolf, those who received Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues when hands were laid on them....were they normal believers? And if the church needed the gifts in the beginning, why would we not need them now? Evil is rampant and the earth is close to Noahs day. Don't you think that it would be better for the church to be alive with the power of God to be the witness that Jesus is alive and well yet?

People want something that is real. Pew sitting and listening to line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little....words without power. Now I'm not putting down those who are preaching salvation by blood. That is a witness but there's so much more to the kingdom of God.

He, God wants to be Emmanuel....even now.

Well, I got a Slavic Chinese French language class to teach. Speaking of tongues! Bye.

Hi Stones...I thought tongues were just for the Apostles , so that when they spoke in tongues , it was for people to hear in their own language so that they who heard could spread the good news from country to country ...Am learning , so please correct me if I am wrong , I am not to strong in this area...xox...

If that was so, Rosemary, then they were being disobedient when laying hands on those in Acts to have the release of the gifts.

back later.

Good question. You know, one of the ideas from those who teach a reason why the gifts ( tongues ) of the Holy Spirit are not for today; is it takes an (A)postle to lay his hands on you to receive. The only problem with that understanding is that the guy who laid his hands on Paul was not an “Apostle”. Ananias was not one of the Apostles. Yet God used him to lay hands on Paul and he was filled with the Spirit.

To: Ignorun

I did nothing more than to post 3 biblical scripture without personal comment, following dcontroversal’s posted list of his accomplishments, which might imply or question if one was boasting. I did this because I could see nothing within CS1 statement that was asking for such a list. In return, dcontroversal did quite well in explaining why he posted his list of accomplishments by stating:

“Read the whole discourse and then read all my posts in CC...was not boasting and have only twice in five years listed a post like this when one mouths about how I come to conclusions.”

However, you Ignorun who was not being spoken to, decided to engage in dcontroversal’s possible defence. Albeit, there is not indication that dcontroversal asked you to do so, as he has adequately defended his own positions on numerous posting, whether right or wrong.

More specifically, Ignorun, you stated to me: “You believe that's boasting! Are you kidding. You haven't a clue as to what boasting is. When I read it, I never got the impression of any boasting. It's encouraging. Motivating. You are confused. Now get our of your self righteous corner.”

To begin Ignorun, you have no insight as to what my understanding of boasting is as you do not know my history or who I am, and such a statement as you have made, could only be made in ignorance. Moreover, how you see dcontroversal’s list of accomplishments as being encouraging would be subjective, as it applies to your knowledge, emotional involvement, and relationship with dcontroversal. But, to conclude or make accusations that I am confused and in a “self-righteous corner”, require that you must have proof, otherwise your accusations are empty and you have judged yourself!

I also note that you are quite sensitive, by your response to my comment: “Now I understand why you are lost in your understanding of tongues. Your still trying to comprehend the English language” As you may have noted there is a smiley face following this statement that is winking ; in other words the statement is said in pun or light hearted gesture, with no real sincerity; it is not meant to be taken seriously. However, you reply by stating: “Arrogance! I read your response to one who mentioned his experience and made note of a most challenging and heartbreaking personal struggle, and he met all the hardship with love, Godly love. And what's your response to him...You are one who kicks people when their down. THEN you cross to the other side and continue on. Read your Bible and get to know the real I AM.”

For you to assume that I know dcontroversal’s history or struggles in life, shows poor insight on your behalf. I have not asked dcontroversal about his history or personal matters, nor has he ever shared it with me. The little bit that I know about him has come from your mouth, and even that is sketchy at most. Thus, calling me “Arrogance” for posting scripture in response to dcontroversal’s list of accomplishments and then associating it with his personal life, is quite a stretch. To my understanding this is a forum of open discussion and debate, if I do not agree with the comments dcontroversal has made I will not remain silent. And if I question something he has said about himself or others, so be it. It’s not about “kicking people when they are down”, this is obviously your perception of how you see dcontroversal, but more importantly is this how he feels? Furthermore, I was not aware dcontroversal has made you his spokesperson? If this were the case then why would he have posted his list of accomplishments, not feeling that they are significant enough to qualify him to engage? Lastly, I do not understand what you mean by “cross to the other side”. When I was in my sins, yes I was on the wrong side, but Christ prevailed through the shedding of His blood and through His great mercy. This was the only time and that I can recall crossing sides, to return to the One who loves me. If I move back and forth between comments that I agree or disagree with on this site, it simply means that at the present time I agree or disagree with someone. But that could always change, as the Spirit leads in understanding or wisdom; and I look forward to being rebuked or corrected.

As for reading my Bible to come to understand of “the real I AM”, is there any other I AM? Not that I’m aware of for this is only One God, One Christ, and One Holy Spirit. And IAm1 that is aware of this.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO SUPPORT for that assertion in Scripture. Come one Garee, quit making things up out of thin air.

Correction to my last para in my lengthy note...it should read there is only One God, One Christ, and One Holy Spirit.

Then you should read oneness pentecostal doctrine ( f.e. wikipedia)
And people here on CC told me that i am not a real christian, if I am not speaking in tongues.
Maby its not your view, but I am confrontet with such views.
Sorry for my bad english.

Yes, but this was in the apostolic time.
About our time, the last days Jesus said a much, but not that we need this gifts.

I told you what my Oneness doctrine is that I follow. The name Yeshua literally means Yahweh's Salvation. When Jesus (Yeshua) said He comes in Father's name, He is absolutely correct. His Father's name is Yahweh, and He (Yeshua) is Yahweh's Salvation!!

So, when I baptize in the name of Yeshua (like we see in the Book of Acts), just like Matthew 28:19 commanded the Disciples/Apostles of Acts, they are baptizing in the NAME of the Father-Son-Holy Spirit when they baptized in the NAME of Yeshua.

Yeshua (Jesus) said 2 things: (1) I come in my Father's Name (2) When I return to my Father, I will send the Comforter (Holy Spirit) in My Name: and the NAME portion of in the NAME of the Father-Son-Holy Spirit falls into these 2 things Yeshua specifically told us (He came to us in His Father's Name -He sends the Holy Spirit in His Name).

So in the Name of Yeshua means He is the Son, He is Yahweh's Salvation, and He sent the Holy Spirit to us. So baptizing in the Name of Yeshua is baptizing in the NAME of the Father-Son-Holy Spirit!!




About the speaking in Tongues issue:
Do you believe Yeshua is God?
Is Yeshua your Lord and Savior?

If you answered yes, I believe you are saved whether you ever speak in Tongues or not!!