YOU ARE A LIAR!!!

Your assessment misses the mark of valid and you are jumping to conclusions that I did not indicate and or even hint at.......sounds like you are one to cause issues in your church and blame the Pastor?

That is not what I said nor indicated.....you made that leap erroneously and I did not say they had problems with their churches, but that all the issues they have had to deal with came from inside

Ahh... sarcasm dripped with projection. Nice. I'll point out one thing and leave you alone.


I want to point out your double speak. You claim to not say they had problems, then you claim they all have issues and go on to describe them. Then you berate me for identifying they have these issues and make me out to be the actual offender.

Who is your father?

In the old days, bipolar and psychological disorders were labelled as demon possession. Today however, we know the difference between demon possession and psychological disorders. The cure for demon possession is casting out through the Name of Yeshua(Jesus), and the cure for psychological disorders come in a prescription you take to your local pharmacy.

My suggestion, NEVER let your prescription run low, Op!!

Amen!!!

The true message of grace is still too offensive for some. [/QUOT


So true!!

If I drank I would drink to that. Fill it to the rim .

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In the old days, bipolar and psychological disorders were labelled as demon possession. Today however, we know the difference between demon possession and psychological disorders. The cure for demon possession is casting out through the Name of Yeshua(Jesus), and the cure for psychological disorders come in a prescription you take to your local pharmacy.

My suggestion, NEVER let your prescription run low, Op!!

You desire testimonies?

I can agree with you wholeheartedly. What is sadly missing these days is the living relationship with Jesus through the Spirit. Everyone seems to be quoting this and that, saying this, not saying that. Saying that people say they don't say enough or haven't said a thing. Or in my case say too much!

What we don't seem to have in abundance is an actual example of the Spirit walking in the flesh!!! That would go a long way to quieting the opposition. A firm answer to humble the mass hysteria of religious panic, I mean zeal

Can’t quite make out what your getting at here Walkingtree “I mean zeal”, could you clarify?

So, what you really want to say is?

There is no beating around the bush when you see how you structured the beginning post of this thread. You baited and expected to get several views (although, views pertaining to what you were discussing). I basically followed suit with the 2nd post, but I thought adding a mental twist to it would be comical. clearly, none of us on this forum know one another from Adam. So, logically as I wrote that particular post, I had a few laughs before hitting the send button.

There is no beating around the bush when you see how you structured the beginning post of this thread. You baited and expected to get several views (although, views pertaining to what you were discussing). I basically followed suit with the 2nd post, but I thought adding a mental twist to it would be comical. clearly, none of us on this forum know one another from Adam. So, logically as I wrote that particular post, I had a few laughs before hitting the send button.

Looks like someone is in need of attention.

The Holy Spirit is my comforter, I am unaffraid to tell it like it is...I see it, you can put your head in the sand all you want, the message of the FINISHED work of the cross is what is missIng everywhere....I am happy to stand up for what Christ did for me...are you?

DID YOU FORGET WHAT YOU ARE!! Let’s have a discussion without scripture posting...let us see, from each other, what the scripture has done in our hearts....I will start with this:

YOU, are nothing!! You fall SHORT of everything!! YOU are self righteous!! You are vain!! You are envy!! You are judge mental, YOU are stuck on YOURSELF! YOU are worthless!! GOD REPENTENED OF YOU!! YOU ARE NOT WORTH 2 CENTS!! NEVER WILL BE IN THIS WORLD!!YOU ARE PATHETIC!! YOU WONT be able to look your savior in the eye!! You will feel shame!!

But yet, you have all have the answers? You are right, and your opposition is a heretic? Have you heard yourselves?? Yes!! Me too!!!
Paul would have come into these wooden churches with a SLEDGE HAMMER!! The body of Christ is under attack and most of what I see is VOID!!! Of LOVE!! Is that what the body of Christ has become!!! Shame on EVERYONE...I did not fall to my knees and give my life over to my savior to be join THIS falling away!!!WE are all liars!! envious!! adulterers!! Not ONE of us is GOOD, yet you act like the scholars you “QUOTE” have been given MORE than you!! You fall to the feet of what OTHERS have accomplished and leave the forever REVEALING WISDOM of scripture “UP TO YOUR PASTOR WHO CANT WAIT TO BOAST ABOUT HIS SEMINARY SCHOOL DEGREE!! As IF he was given something more than you!! Your pastors are liars with the rest of us!!!All you have is your Bible!! There is no mediator between you and God, but the SON...ARE YOU telling me that you are not aware of the corruption!! that I know!!that you have seen in the churches alll over this country!!?? Do you think that because you have found a pastor, that HIDES his sin better than you, that he is anything LESS than a liar? A thief? A hypocrite!!!!! MAKE EVERY MAN A LIAR!! Get out of your DOCTRINE!!, OPEN your bibles for the first time with eyes like a child!! STOP being lead like SHEEP to the slaughter!! KNOW ALL OF THIS BEFORE you sit down in your local church and get force fed something CONTRARY to what Christ taught!! ALL I SEE IS a bunch of self absorbed MEN, choking on scripture!! MOST of which was interpreted by SOMEONE ELSE!! IF YOU CAN FIND A PASTOR, THAT PREACHES THiS MESSAGE, ILL BE ThE first person in Church Sunday morning!!!

STOP PUSHING YOUR brethren away from Christ, because you heard through the grape vine, that brother Jim was seen at a bar the other night.....he must not be saved!!! Let’s WARN HIM TWICE then outcast him!!! Cause Sister Susan saw his TRUCK, better yet!! When he comes into church next week, we will have the pastor REBUKE him, while the Pastor and other members have a LOG the size of the TITANIC in their eye!!! HYPPOCRITS!! Workers of Iniquity!!! YOU NEVER KNEW HIM!!!YOU NEVER ACCEPTED THE CROSS!!! YOU STILL PREACH CONDEMNATION FROM SIN!! NOONE WILL BE jUDGED FOR SIN!! What does that tell you????IF thIs is YOU, and I know there are MANY!! Shame on you!!!

FORGET telling him that he is NO LONgER Under the jurisdiction of SIN....IT IS GONE PEOPLE!! STOP USING REPENTANCE AGAINst your brother!! You HYPOCRITES!!! HOW could you even consider answering for that, you will not even be able LOOK UP at his FACE!! Your humbleness and meekness should be obvious here, and in your life!!

YOU are secure the moment you believe!!!! It is not up to any of YOU to THINK you have anything to do with the INCREASE!!!!!!, wether through treating your brethren as a non believer, or rebuking him because of what sister Tina said.....because sister Tina is quite the political figure...she’s very social and attends every service!!!.....she can judge!!! Right??? IM TAking a BReAK!!

Looks like Paul believed in rebuking people(looks like Paul disagrees with you, hmm), maybe you should adjust your false belief systems according to your claimed Apostle Paul's?

1Tim 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
2Tim 4:2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
Titus 2:15 These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee.

All you are doing is MOCKING church discipline and obedience, calling it "hypocrisy". This is the reason churches are no better than the world today and we are looked at as hypocrites.
Not because of rebuking, but because its LACKING.

You seriously expect the Pastor to not say anything if some church member went around with the guys to a stripclub somewhere? The Pastor is supposed to just be a-okay with it? Or must he be sinlessly perfect to POINT OUT that flaw? SERIOUSLY?

Adjust to what Paul said, or stop typing, you are quickly approaching twilight zone theology. La-la-land.[/QUOTE

Thank you sir, yes sir....

Hevo, you will find it more appropriate, to simply ask me a question......try it on for once. I have not not hit the ignore button, and I do not plan to.

Yes, Paul does teach when it is appropriate to rebuke, it is not without scripture to follow clearly....I have never claimed that Paul was deficient in his application of rebuke....He did it in such a way, worthy for all of us to follow. Here is a passage where he demonstrates...

1 Corinthians 5 King James Version (KJV)

5 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

Notice he says “not even something the gentiles would tolerate”. This is obvious, a man was sleeping with his fathers wife, and the church was puffed up with arrogance, and did not even mourn the event, glorying in it...Have you personally dealt with this in your church? Incest? Fornication so bad, that it is not even tolerated amoung the gentiles?

Paul is clearly emphasizing that this is “in the open” and has become something wicked...Fornication has always followed “idols”, make no mistake, a Pastor would need to handle this quickly......obviously Hevo, even the wicked like me and others that follow Paul’s epistles have our limitations.....

I’ll go on to clarify what I believe, through reading scripture, a process of rebuke may look like.....it’s ok Hevo, even though scripture does not support your desire to rebuke, in the fullness you have demonstrated..you are not left without a side arm, for those that would openly and clearly mock your congregation with fornication on this level...you can keep your 22 cal. And I’ll even help you escort them out...

I will tell a fictional story, hopefully, you will be able to see my view, and why it is so important that it be addressed.

So...Mary is a member of the local church for 6 years now, she is very successful, she drives a nice car, has made many friends in her congregation, and a Facebook profile to prove it. One day, Mary stopped at a gas station to refuel. As she stood at the pump, she looked over and noticed a new member, Tim, walking into the convenient store, just as she finished pumping gas, Tim walks out with some goods he purchased, Mary walks over to greet him, “Hi Tim, how are you? we missed you in church last week!” and notices that through the thin bag, she can make out the word “Budweiser”........

“CUT”

Ok Hevo, jump in, if you want, we can continue this story, and you can comment on the appropriate actions of a Christian, if your interested, and since you didn’t push the ignore button on me, maybe we could go about this a little differently, and come to a better conclusion, I do not dislike you, nor do I have a desire to out wit you with scripture....Deal?

I’m off to work, will be in this afternoon

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YOU, are nothing!! You fall SHORT of everything!! YOU are self righteous!! You are vain!! You are envy!! You are judge mental, YOU are stuck on YOURSELF! YOU are worthless!! GOD REPENTENED OF YOU!! YOU ARE NOT WORTH 2 CENTS!! NEVER WILL BE IN THIS WORLD!!YOU ARE PATHETIC!! YOU WONT be able to look your savior in the eye!! You will feel shame!!