Not only are we not under the law, we should not try to abide by it.
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Well, the NT Greek, whenever they talk about sin, its almost always a noun and not a verb. There are only very few occasions when the word sin is a verb, when Paul said "Shall we sin more so that grace may increase" Romans 6:1
Sin is a noun as in "sinful nature", so when the Greek in the NT stated that Jesus did not sin, the sin is not referring to actions but his nature. He had no flesh in him that sin could get a grip on.
My view is that it is "impossible" for him to sin. When he was tempted by Satan at the wilderness, its for Satan to know for sure that Jesus is pure gold, Satan's temptation will not work on him.
It may be a difficult view for people to accept at first, personally, whether you believe either way, it does not matter, its not key for salvation.
Sin is a noun as in "sinful nature", so when the Greek in the NT stated that Jesus did not sin, the sin is not referring to actions but his nature. He had no flesh in him that sin could get a grip on.
My view is that it is "impossible" for him to sin. When he was tempted by Satan at the wilderness, its for Satan to know for sure that Jesus is pure gold, Satan's temptation will not work on him.
It may be a difficult view for people to accept at first, personally, whether you believe either way, it does not matter, its not key for salvation.
Well, the NT Greek, whenever they talk about sin, its almost always a noun and not a verb. There are only very few occasions when the word sin is a verb, when Paul said "Shall we sin more so that grace may increase" Romans 6:1
Sin is a noun as in "sinful nature", so when the Greek in the NT stated that Jesus did not sin, the sin is not referring to actions but his nature. He had no flesh in him that sin could get a grip on.
My view is that it is "impossible" for him to sin. When he was tempted by Satan at the wilderness, its for Satan to know for sure that Jesus is pure gold, Satan's temptation will not work on him.
It may be a difficult view for people to accept at first, personally, whether you believe either way, it does not matter, its not key for salvation.
Sin is a noun as in "sinful nature", so when the Greek in the NT stated that Jesus did not sin, the sin is not referring to actions but his nature. He had no flesh in him that sin could get a grip on.
My view is that it is "impossible" for him to sin. When he was tempted by Satan at the wilderness, its for Satan to know for sure that Jesus is pure gold, Satan's temptation will not work on him.
It may be a difficult view for people to accept at first, personally, whether you believe either way, it does not matter, its not key for salvation.
I believe sin is a choice because God is not just if we are guilty of sin condemned to death without us choosing.
Adam sinned and we have all inherited the tendency to sin but we are not guilty when we have not chosen to sin.
The Guilt of Adam is not passed on to His Children.
I believe in a just God.
Faith works by LOVE. Those that love God put their faith in Him and God knows those that love Him.
Christ has given us authority over sin. Never are we “captive” to it. However, if we choose to walk according to our flesh, we will sin, but never be “captive.” We always have the power to say, “No.”
There are consequences. The sword never departed from King David’s house and God did not remove His Spirit from King David.
Christ has given us authority over sin. Never are we “captive” to it. However, if we choose to walk according to our flesh, we will sin, but never be “captive.” We always have the power to say, “No.”
There are consequences. The sword never departed from King David’s house and God did not remove His Spirit from King David.
The doctrine of original sin.
Beginning with the valid biblical position of man's inherent carnal nature, which predisposes him to sin, the idea gradually evolved that Adam's guilt was also imputed to his descendants. Augustine was responsible more than any other for propagating this view of transmitted guilt. Through Luther and the reformers it found its way into many of the Protestant churches.
Beginning with the valid biblical position of man's inherent carnal nature, which predisposes him to sin, the idea gradually evolved that Adam's guilt was also imputed to his descendants. Augustine was responsible more than any other for propagating this view of transmitted guilt. Through Luther and the reformers it found its way into many of the Protestant churches.
In God’s domain, NOTHING is a battle. It’s all about AUTHORITY. Who is The Most High? He is the One with the most authority.
In Christ, we are born again of incorruptible seed and given authority over our sinful nature and this world.
Therefore, we are NEVER taken as captives to sin, but we have a choice to walk according to our flesh or the spirit.
If we choose the flesh, we will sin.
If we choose the spirit, we will not sin.
It’s not about “natures” anymore. We’re back in the garden - it’s about “choices”..........again!!!
In Christ, we are born again of incorruptible seed and given authority over our sinful nature and this world.
Therefore, we are NEVER taken as captives to sin, but we have a choice to walk according to our flesh or the spirit.
If we choose the flesh, we will sin.
If we choose the spirit, we will not sin.
It’s not about “natures” anymore. We’re back in the garden - it’s about “choices”..........again!!!
We are to be led by and walk In the Spirit. The Spirit of Christ will never lead you to sin. Also, don’t miss the part where I said God writes His Law I’m our hearts. God cleanses the inside, so that both the inside and outside are clean.
What is our part abide in Jesus and walk in the Spirit. But only God can regenerate us, preserve us, and only He can begin and perfect the work in us
What is our part abide in Jesus and walk in the Spirit. But only God can regenerate us, preserve us, and only He can begin and perfect the work in us
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You demonstrate that you don’t even try to hear what others are saying. The Law is a curse to people who are under it and don’t fulfill it to perfection. Jesus was born under the Law but fulfilled it to perfection,therefore why would you ask if it is a curse to Him?
You put yourself under the Law so you are obligated to do everything in it perfectly and completely, or you place yourself under a curse
WE HAVE been crucified with Jesus who is our substitute, taking the curse of the broken law on Himself. Our curse. This is precisely why Jesus came to fulfill the Law, to redeem us from its curse. He was and is the only one who could accomplish this
You put yourself under the Law so you are obligated to do everything in it perfectly and completely, or you place yourself under a curse
WE HAVE been crucified with Jesus who is our substitute, taking the curse of the broken law on Himself. Our curse. This is precisely why Jesus came to fulfill the Law, to redeem us from its curse. He was and is the only one who could accomplish this
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so now its only a curse is its not done perfect. not what you said before.
Jesus commanded we love the Father and man, if we dont love them perfect, then what? see the problems this "you must do it perfect" causes.
the Father forgives sins, and has always forgiven. the curse comes from turning from the law and never turning back.
Jesus commanded we love the Father and man, if we dont love them perfect, then what? see the problems this "you must do it perfect" causes.
the Father forgives sins, and has always forgiven. the curse comes from turning from the law and never turning back.