Stuff in the bible that seems to make no sense

My guess is it was for the benefit of all in order to believe.
Think about it; if Jesus just moved the stone himself and left, then who would have informed Mary that Christ had risen?
If Jesus moved the stone and left, would the guards have been shaking in their boots as they were with the angel?

Right. Also think about this ... in Matt 27:62-66, the chief priests and the pharisees basically told Pilate that the disciples would steal Jesus away (see vs 64).

With what occurred as recorded in Matt 28:1-6, there were witnesses from both camps who saw the angel, felt the earth move as the angel removed the stone, and heard the angel state that Jesus was risen from the dead.

The two Mary's went and told the disciples (Matt 28:8) as instructed.

However, the guards went and told the chief priests what had happened (Matt 28:11). They were then bribed to lie and state that the disciples had stolen the body (Matt 28:12). Then we see that the guards took the bribe: Matthew 28:15 So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day.

[side note: and we think we're the only generation to have obfuscation and lies in our news reporting agencies ]

John 20 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Resurrection of Jesus
20 Now on the first day of the week Mary Mag′dalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb. 2 So she ran, and went to Simon Peter and the other disciple, the one whom Jesus loved, and said to them, “They have taken the Lord out of the tomb, and we do not know where they have laid him.” 3 Peter then came out with the other disciple, and they went toward the tomb. 4 They both ran, but the other disciple outran Peter and reached the tomb first; 5 and stooping to look in, he saw the linen cloths lying there, but he did not go in. 6 Then Simon Peter came, following him, and went into the tomb; he saw the linen cloths lying, 7 and the napkin, which had been on his head, not lying with the linen cloths but rolled up in a place by itself. 8 Then the other disciple, who reached the tomb first, also went in, and he saw and believed; 9 for as yet they did not know the scripture, that he must rise from the dead. 10 Then the disciples went back to their homes.


Mark 16 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Resurrection of Jesus
16 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Mag′dalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salo′me, bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. 2 And very early on the first day of the week they went to the tomb when the sun had risen. 3 And they were saying to one another, “Who will roll away the stone for us from the door of the tomb?” 4 And looking up, they saw that the stone was rolled back—it was very large. 5 And entering the tomb, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, dressed in a white robe; and they were amazed. 6 And he said to them, “Do not be amazed; you seek Jesus of Nazareth, who was crucified. He has risen, he is not here; see the place where they laid him. 7 But go, tell his disciples and Peter that he is going before you to Galilee; there you will see him, as he told you.” 8 And they went out and fled from the tomb; for trembling and astonishment had come upon them; and they said nothing to any one, for they were afraid.

Luke 24 Revised Standard Version (RSV)
The Resurrection of Jesus
24 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices which they had prepared. 2 And they found the stone rolled away from the tomb, 3 but when they went in they did not find the body.[a] 4 While they were perplexed about this, behold, two men stood by them in dazzling apparel; 5 and as they were frightened and bowed their faces to the ground, the men said to them, “Why do you seek the living among the dead? 6 Remember how he told you, while he was still in Galilee, 7 that the Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and on the third day rise.” 8 And they remembered his words, 9 and returning from the tomb they told all this to the eleven and to all the rest. 10 Now it was Mary Mag′dalene and Jo-an′na and Mary the mother of James and the other women with them who told this to the apostles; 11 but these words seemed to them an idle tale, and they did not believe them

None of the texts says how the stone was moved. I always thought it was an earthquake that moved it.

TheLearner said:

None of the texts says how the stone was moved. I always thought it was an earthquake that moved it.

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Matthew 28:2 (KJV) And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.


I believe the earthquake was caused by the stone being rolled away by the angel of the Lord.

AMEN!!

luke 24:
29 But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them.

30 And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them.

31 And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.

32 And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

33 And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them,

34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.

35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.

36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.

37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.




This shows Yeshua in verse 31 just vanishes from their sight (they are in a house and Yeshua did not use a door to leave), and in verse 36 Yeshua just appears from out of nowhere and did not use the door to enter).

This proof not good enough for you?

Well Mary thought he looked like the Gardner.

though probably this could be a reason
John 5
31If I testify about Myself, My testimony is not valid. 32There is another who testifies about Me, and I know that His testimony about Me is valid.

I would offer God is supernatural without beginning of day or end of Spirit life. He is not a man as us and neither could he be a creation of his own flesh and blood in John 6 he informs us it profits for nothing as to the things seen .(the temporal)

The body he did have after the resurrection was shown performing some things that only a spirit could perform . But not one believer has received their new bodies which will be neither male nor female Jew or Gentile . What we are (flesh and blood) is not what we will be .

When the outward promised demonstration of Christ's labor of His love coming to pour out His unseen Spirit on corrupted flesh. When finished he left clear warning that when we think of our invisible God we no longer look to the flesh as some did during that short time period. God is not a man as us and neither is there a fleshly mediator as a umpire that stands in the unseen Holy Place of God.

We walk by faith

Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known "Christ after the flesh", yet now henceforth know we him no more. 2 Corinthians 5:16

In order for our blessed Lord, Jesus, to be our judge He became just as we are, with the same weaknesses and strengths however He knew His mission and the reward so that was all He needed to succeed. While He was not yet fully glorified, He was just as you and I are.

This is how He humbled Himself thinking it nothing being God. This is the humility of God, not of men. That we all could be as humble is a prayer in Jesus name always..amen,.

an angel did not 'have to'. Why assume such?

Well this is the best answer yet in my opinion. But I aprechiate all good answers.

Do you believe God is everywhere? I do. This being the truth, how is it so many here think He had to walk "through" a wall? All He ever needs is to simply appear, manifest Himself. Think on that folks......

The bolds are presumptions on your part.

I would say after the three days and out of the tomb the Son of man, Jesus had the same corruptible body he was born with. It was preserved or kept from disease (corruption.) and his soul did not continue to suffer longer than a three day and three nights demonstration .

Does anyone here take into account the women on their way to His Tomb. One asked another, "who will we get to roll awy the stone?" yOU ARE ALL TALKING ABOUT WHO, NOW YOU KNOW WHY.

physical pain from the side of humanity
spiritual suffering the moment He is separated from the Father
physical death from the side of humanity

other than that, He is still God. He is very much alive and well. He chose 72 hours (3 days) because He had other missions to accomplish. Like say hello to the Adversary, and take the keys of death and the grave from him (so we are able to resurrect without obstruction).

The flesh body was like a lamb in human form. It fulfilled its purpose. But it was still God the entire process through. And that brief separation from Son to Father upon the Cross, reconnected the moment He said, it is finished.

From the moment Jesus gave up His spirit on the cross until after the three days and the three nights had passed, His Body had no corruption. The Fatheraised Him from the dead, the Firstborn of the Resurrection, and from that point on for 40 days His Body was being florified.

Since Isaiah says plainly Jesus, Yeshua, would be called many names, one of which is Everlasting Father, He raisee HImself.

God is One….…..I canot explain it, but by faith I crtainly believe it.

Thanks be to Him, all His created beings are given the opportunity to be used for His Glory. What an honor, what a privilege. He doesn't need us for anything and still we are here...WOW, heart and mind-boggling. He died and rose again for our good and His Glory.

Amen!!

The SAME DEITY that makes up who God is, also is the same DEITY for All of God (Father - Son - Holy Spirit). So one function of God helping the other, is still the same as God raising Himself from the grave!!