Amen!
Galatians 5:19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who "practice" such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. *These are not believers.
1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God "practices" sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, we see a similar list of sins that were mentioned in Galatians 5:19-21, and Paul goes on to describe such people who practice these sins, in contrast with those who don't. 9 Or do you not know that the UNRIGHTEOUS will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 *Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
*Notice that Paul refers to these people who will not inherit the kingdom of God as the UNRIGHTEOUS, not the righteous. *They were not genuine believers.
Where does the Bible specifically say, "no longer trust Christ in His righteousness/no longer justified/lost salvation? In Romans 8:30, we read ..and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them. *Notice how Paul uses the past tense for a future event to stress it's certainty. So according to you, Jesus will allow His sheep to be snatched from his hands? (John 10:27-29). The Lord's saints are not preserved forever? (Psalm 37:28) Believers are not sealed with the Holy Spirit until the redemption of the purchased possession/unto the day of redemption? (Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30)
A shallow commitment is not a true commitment, so such a person was not saved. Judas Iscariot is a good example.
The word "if" here is not ean, an unfulfilled, hypothetical condition used with the subjunctive mode, presenting the possibility of a future realization, but ei with the indicative, having here the idea of "assuming that you continue in the faith." That is, continuance would show that the person's faith is firmly established in the hope of the gospel and they really HAVE BEEN reconciled. The form of this phrase in Greek (using particle ei and the indicative mood of the verb epimenō) indicates that Paul fully expects that the Colossian believers will continue in the faith; no doubt is expressed, yet what about "nominal" Christians whose shallow, temporary belief withers away?
It's only natural that Paul would speak this way, for he is addressing groups of people who profess to be Christians, without being able to know the actual state of every person's heart. How can Paul avoid giving them false assurance here that they will be eternally saved when in fact they may not? Whenever you have a group (especially a very large group) of professing Christians, it's not hard to find nominal Christians mixed in with a group of genuine Christians. Which makes sense why Paul would write this way. Paul knows that faith which is firmly grounded and established in the gospel from the start will continue. Those who continue in the faith show thereby that they are genuine believers. But those who do not continue show that their shallow faith was not grounded in the gospel to begin with and they were not saved.
Exactly. Jesus knows the hearts of all men and responds to each individual a little differently because He knows where their need is. He didn't respond to the woman at the well, or to Nicodemus or to the rich young ruler the exact same way, yet the consistent pattern in scripture is salvation by grace through faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8,9). I have often heard works-salvationists use what Jesus said to the rich young ruler to teach that salvation is obtained based on the merits of obeying the commandments.
I'm still looking for a verse in the Bible that unequivocally says a really "saved" person really "lost their salvation," but am yet to find it.
Galatians 5:19 Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, 20 idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, 21 envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who "practice" such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. *These are not believers.
1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God "practices" sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
In 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, we see a similar list of sins that were mentioned in Galatians 5:19-21, and Paul goes on to describe such people who practice these sins, in contrast with those who don't. 9 Or do you not know that the UNRIGHTEOUS will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 *Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
*Notice that Paul refers to these people who will not inherit the kingdom of God as the UNRIGHTEOUS, not the righteous. *They were not genuine believers.
Where does the Bible specifically say, "no longer trust Christ in His righteousness/no longer justified/lost salvation? In Romans 8:30, we read ..and whom He justified, these He also glorified. *ALL of them. *Notice how Paul uses the past tense for a future event to stress it's certainty. So according to you, Jesus will allow His sheep to be snatched from his hands? (John 10:27-29). The Lord's saints are not preserved forever? (Psalm 37:28) Believers are not sealed with the Holy Spirit until the redemption of the purchased possession/unto the day of redemption? (Ephesians 1:13-14; 4:30)
A shallow commitment is not a true commitment, so such a person was not saved. Judas Iscariot is a good example.
The word "if" here is not ean, an unfulfilled, hypothetical condition used with the subjunctive mode, presenting the possibility of a future realization, but ei with the indicative, having here the idea of "assuming that you continue in the faith." That is, continuance would show that the person's faith is firmly established in the hope of the gospel and they really HAVE BEEN reconciled. The form of this phrase in Greek (using particle ei and the indicative mood of the verb epimenō) indicates that Paul fully expects that the Colossian believers will continue in the faith; no doubt is expressed, yet what about "nominal" Christians whose shallow, temporary belief withers away?
It's only natural that Paul would speak this way, for he is addressing groups of people who profess to be Christians, without being able to know the actual state of every person's heart. How can Paul avoid giving them false assurance here that they will be eternally saved when in fact they may not? Whenever you have a group (especially a very large group) of professing Christians, it's not hard to find nominal Christians mixed in with a group of genuine Christians. Which makes sense why Paul would write this way. Paul knows that faith which is firmly grounded and established in the gospel from the start will continue. Those who continue in the faith show thereby that they are genuine believers. But those who do not continue show that their shallow faith was not grounded in the gospel to begin with and they were not saved.
Exactly. Jesus knows the hearts of all men and responds to each individual a little differently because He knows where their need is. He didn't respond to the woman at the well, or to Nicodemus or to the rich young ruler the exact same way, yet the consistent pattern in scripture is salvation by grace through faith, not works (Ephesians 2:8,9). I have often heard works-salvationists use what Jesus said to the rich young ruler to teach that salvation is obtained based on the merits of obeying the commandments.
I'm still looking for a verse in the Bible that unequivocally says a really "saved" person really "lost their salvation," but am yet to find it.
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