Not By Works

False teaching is a serious thing with dire consequences for the saved who fall for its delusion and the unsaved who do not hear the true Gospel

I have no doubt there is an all out assault on the truth presently.....

Salvation is a one time event. It is not a lifelong process.
The True Gospel is Once Saved Always Saved, Eternal Security, No Works Required, all provided freely by the Grace of God.

The pope has no interest in a hard line approach, he is a fake and a fraud, and has the blood on his hands of innocent children, his main focus presently is building a one world religion.

And I could say a lot worse but I will not, to spare the audience the depth of his evil.

It seems this message board is still being trolled....sigh

No it is not name calling when you name names of people that present False Theology.

Paul did it.

1 Timothy 1:18-20 (NIV)
18 Timothy, my son, I give you this instruction in keeping with the prophecies once made about you, so that by following them you may fight the good fight,
19 holding on to faith and a good conscience. Some have rejected these and so have shipwrecked their faith.
20 Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.


2 Timothy 4:2-3 (NCV)
2 Preach the Good News. Be ready at all times, and tell people what they need to do. Tell them when they are wrong. Encourage them with great patience and careful teaching,
3 because the time will come when people will not listen to the true teaching but will find many more teachers who please them by saying the things they want to hear.

i try to read a chapter of Proverbs every morning --


this just shouts from the page, today: "that thy trust may be in the Lord"

not by might, nor by power, but by His Spirit. constrained all under sin so that He may have mercy on all. not of Him that willeth, but of God who has mercy. man at his best state, altogether vanity - can these bones live? "Lord, you know"

at the center, my friends.
it's about Him, not about us; about His works and doings, not about ours ((the pivot)) - so it cannot possibly be that we do well to earn favor or reward, but it is about what is wise: to arouse His anger and bring chastisement down on ourselves? or to abide in His grace doing what pleases Him? there's no question whether we should walk in the light - amen, it is the righteous reply of our hearts and it foolishness to do anything less


be wise -- but not in your own eyes.
and be gentle & harmless. a it's not good to exasperate a child, and turn him against you, but it is to a person's honor to overlook offense without perverting judgement. as Christ says here: i hope we all learn to balance the wisdom of a snake with the timidity of a bird. and the Lord will teach us this - i trust Him to finish the work - "He will do all His will"

The above is a good example of listening and not jumping to conclusions too fast.
Which would we rather do? Fall into sin and error because we thought something was one way and it was actually
another, or take time to understand.

When we think following Jesus is about us the saved, and them the lost, and worst still the evil deceivers, we miss
the Kingdom. Jesus respected the teachers of the law, and knew their strengths. He knew everything they taught
and most importantly of all, how they failed. And He loved them. And some became followers of Him, Paul included.

Loving like Jesus is hard, because it relies on faith in God and being confident in what and who you believe in and why.
But Jesus declared "I am the way, the truth and the life."

So in Him we risk everything, literally, unto death. It is our calling just as the apostles risked everything unto death.
None we know of lived to an old age.

Except John...

3 John 1:1
The elder, To my dear friend Gaius, whom I love in the truth.

It is easy to become a rabble, label the "heretic" and then burn him on the pyre.
The rabble can become a group of loosely associated people who know what they want to achieve.

And the motivation is to be able to push someone so they look so bad they are removed from the community.
We know this is what goes on, the question is, is the behaviour that which the Lord calls us to?

Unfortunately religious groups are very easy to push in this way.
It is why christians are dying round the world, often at the hands of muslims.

So is the Holy Spirit moving, or just the repeat of the way the world works and manipulation dominates?

I was wondering if he was the exception, I was not sure. Thanks for the correction.
Revelation could well be his last book in retirement.

We are called to love sinners and get alongside them.
Often the very sin we accuse another of we are guilty of also.

And some things we call sin are actually a miss-understanding or wrong emphasis.

The sin we are called to be very careful of is judgementalism.
Once one knows "I am right, I have got it" and you find others may not agree, it is easy
to fall into.

So which is worse, to be right, and to stomp on another, or to explore with others why
they believe as they do, and see as they see, and bring them into a place of grace?

What if that post was intended as a joke.........I mean if you read it slow it is hilarious!

Maybe GNM thought he was talking to people who knew after reading that long funny post that there was no such book in the Bible as the book of Naomi!!!

If that is true can you imagine the laughs he got reading the responding posts? Especially that guy who took a fake book Naomi and turned it into Nahum and called him a false prophet. Or those researching a noexistant book called Naomi AND FOUND ONE then called him a Mormon.

I remember our pastor doing this during our Bible drill games.....right in the middle of the game he would make up a Bible name and say "find the book of Hezekiah 2:12.......kids scramble to find it......fun times

That is why we are to listen to Gods word before man...Love covers a multitude of sins...
We are to judge righteously from the truth of Gods word...xox...

So let me get this straight. You join the site like 5 minutes ago, read back 10+ pages of a thread of 90,000 posts you randomly chose, give an explanation as if you are intimately familiar with all the moving parts, and then think the whole exercise is funny?

Are you REALLY a pastor? Cause something doesn't pass the smell test here.

If we see a brother commit a sin, take him aside, if he continues in that sin, bring a witness, if he yet continues bring in to the whole church, if he fails to repent, after this, tell him not to return until he repents.

You people excusing sin of others which was ongoing and denied just shows what the problem is with much of the church

You go preach they we must strive to be perfect. But when your own sins are exposed, you ignore them, deny them, or blame shift, or like the new guy did, excuse his sin. And say he was joking.

News flash, God was not laughing.

Hi D...I heard a story from a preacher saying that a chinese lady had asked him
" So my mother is in hell because she did not die with Jesus as her Savior " he replied " Yes "
She said " Well in that case , I would rather be with my mother in hell , then be in heaven without her "....xox..

Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? James 2:21



Work of obedience.


Abraham was justfed by His obedience.


That’s why it’s called the obedience of faith.



But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: Romans 16:26



again



Abraham was justified by the obedience of faith when he obeyed the Lord and got out of his country, out of his household to go to land that God would show him.


By faith Abraham obeyed when he was called to go out to the place which he would receive as an inheritance. And he went out, not knowing where he was going. Hebrews 11:8



Of this event Paul says it this way -


And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel to Abraham beforehand, saying, “In you all the nations shall be blessed.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with believing Abraham. Galatians 3:8



This is a type of our being justified by faith; the obedience of faith when we obey the gospel.



Here is that same event from Genesis. -



Now the Lord had said to Abram:
“Get out of your country,
From your family
And from your father’s house,
To a land that I will show you.
I will make you a great nation;
I will bless you
And make your name great;
And you shall be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
So Abram departed as the Lord had spoken to him, and Lot went with him.
Genesis 12:1-4




Here is where Abraham received faith from hearing God’s word -

• Now the Lord had said to Abram: Get out of your country, From your family...

Here is when Abraham was justified by faith; the obedience of faith -

• So Abram departed as the Lord had spoken to him

Yes. I agree.


OSAS is a false teaching, promoted by false teachers.








JPT

Speculation? By the way, Love your screen name.