Christian’s days compared to Jewish days

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Blik

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well it appears to be au courant right in this thread

again, you dodge actually responding to the post

you dodge applying a response to the scripture posted

ps...what you call a fight, was Paul being clear on God's directive. maybe pay attention to it

you dodge the concept presented by that scripture

and do all that by trying to 'talk down' and making it seem you are above any direct responsibility with regards to your teaching on the OT which is not biblical

I'm not Jewish and nothing I said indicates a discussion on their culture

the Jewish culture still evolves around a good debate, and plenty of conjecture, but how does that excuse your lack of response to the scriptures?

you refuse to directly respond to scripture and use smoke and mirrors as some sort of illusion that you know better than others here, who consistently attempt to direct you to what the Bible actually says

your suave accusatory manner has not gone unnoticed. you basically make your own trouble and then complain about it
I haven't seen scripture applying to this post. I am not personally dodging anyone or anything, I am only asking people to think about what I posted. I'm a Jew, I guess, for God told me I was adopted in. Folks came from Norway, way back.

You post scripture that is the truth of God, what do you want me to say? Doesn't apply to this post, why not start one about that scripture? You sound angry with me, and so help me, I'm just doing the best I can and I sure didn't try to make you angry.

Going back to this post, the Sinai covenant gives promises of blessings for obedience, and those blessings can't have anything to do with salvation. Mankind has never become so perfect they aren't saved by grace. So this post is about those blessings that are apart from the blessing of salvation. ----so these statements aren't in response to you but then you aren't in response to me.
 

Bingo

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"Entering into a 'dark' area in today's sinister 'movements' of an 'adversary' shall bear
uncomfortable and harmful emotions in any fellowship with God. Sensitivity has brought
cause of open and blatant rebellion in the wrong places. Unity, now as never before should
be of utmost concern. Have not these things been forewarned of...not to be practiced."
'Praise God'
 

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Blik

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Beware of those who say they are Jews but are not, rther they arfe a synagogue of Satan. I do not belong to this faction of the denominations of this age.

My faith can only be the faith of Abraham, as given by Jesus Christ………..
I hear what you are saying. But we are Israel when we accept Christ, and here is a promise. It is not a promise of salvation, for salvation is only by faith not by works, always has been.

Duet. 28:1 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:

Sure seems like the Jews that try to live by this has this, they achieve way more than gentiles.
 
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I haven't seen scripture applying to this post. I am not personally dodging anyone or anything, I am only asking people to think about what I posted. I'm a Jew, I guess, for God told me I was adopted in. Folks came from Norway, way back.

You post scripture that is the truth of God, what do you want me to say? Doesn't apply to this post, why not start one about that scripture? You sound angry with me, and so help me, I'm just doing the best I can and I sure didn't try to make you angry.

Going back to this post, the Sinai covenant gives promises of blessings for obedience, and those blessings can't have anything to do with salvation. Mankind has never become so perfect they aren't saved by grace. So this post is about those blessings that are apart from the blessing of salvation. ----so these statements aren't in response to you but then you aren't in response to me.

yawn

no you are not a Jew

did Paul call the Gentiles converts Jews?

crickets chirping...hard question I know

no he did not call the Gentile converts Jews

I'm in general response to your posts but actually in general repose since you never give a straight answer :whistle:

as an aside...I always wanted to go to Norway.....
 

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I hear what you are saying. But we are Israel when we accept Christ, and here is a promise. It is not a promise of salvation, for salvation is only by faith not by works, always has been.

Duet. 28:1 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:

Sure seems like the Jews that try to live by this has this, they achieve way more than gentiles.
It's easy to look at surface appearances and draw conclusions. However, correlation is not necessarily indicative of causation. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group. Yet they reject their Messiah. East Asians have the second-highest average IQ. They also achieve a lot and yet generally reject Jesus. Could Christians achieve more by being more disciplined? Yes, but so could atheists.
 

TM19782017

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All the major religions have 1 common belief that joins us all.
We believe in a power greater than ourselves.

The minor differences are just the same as people who were different clothing or different haircuts.

As long as hate for others isn’t there and we can be respectful of minor differences, it’s all good!
 

Dino246

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All the major religions have 1 common belief that joins us all.
We believe in a power greater than ourselves.

The minor differences are just the same as people who were different clothing or different haircuts.

As long as hate for others isn’t there and we can be respectful of minor differences, it’s all good!
I don't agree that the nature of God and His plan for salvation are minor issues. That isn't what the Bible teaches either.
 

TM19782017

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I don't agree that the nature of God and His plan for salvation are minor issues. That isn't what the Bible teaches either.
You reality is your reality...No one can say what you see is wrong.

A good quote is life makes sense looking backward but it must be live forwards.
 

Dino246

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You reality is your reality...No one can say what you see is wrong.
In terms of respecting each other, that's valid. In terms of sharing objective truth, it's a hindrance. The Bible teaches us that we will be held to account for what we believe... and what we do with that belief. It teaches that there is objective truth, and objective right and wrong. If "no one can tell you what you see is wrong", they can't tell you what they see is objectively "right" either. :)
 

TM19782017

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In terms of respecting each other, that's valid. In terms of sharing objective truth, it's a hindrance. The Bible teaches us that we will be held to account for what we believe... and what we do with that belief. It teaches that there is objective truth, and objective right and wrong. If "no one can tell you what you see is wrong", they can't tell you what they see is objectively "right" either. :)
I agree totally.... What you look at is not important, what you see is.

If I told you I see that blonde girl as pretty, does that make it true?.... To me it is but, if another person disagrees, to him it is not.
On speaking about spiritual truths, even harder.....How could a couple in love ever show that truth to another person?
Impossible for another human to feel what they know is true love. Words fall short of convincing another.
 

JaumeJ

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I hear what you are saying. But we are Israel when we accept Christ, and here is a promise. It is not a promise of salvation, for salvation is only by faith not by works, always has been.

Duet. 28:1 If you fully obey the Lord your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the Lord your God:

Sure seems like the Jews that try to live by this has this, they achieve way more than gentiles.
It seems what you describe as the Jewish, I speak of denominational Jews, is actually what Jesus, Yeshua, has accomplished for us allin being our Perfection. Now cosider He being the Head and we being th emembers of His Body, and ddthis is ruling with Godddddd or simply Israel.
 

Blik

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It's easy to look at surface appearances and draw conclusions. However, correlation is not necessarily indicative of causation. Ashkenazi Jews have the highest average IQ of any ethnic group. Yet they reject their Messiah. East Asians have the second-highest average IQ. They also achieve a lot and yet generally reject Jesus. Could Christians achieve more by being more disciplined? Yes, but so could atheists.
Thank you for replying to a post of mine in a civil manner. I felt you were stalking me because we differ in interpretation.

According to Paul in Romans, there is something mysterious between God and the Jews that we are not told of and God will be faithful to them. When I explored their ways, it was as a result of reading Zech 8:23 saying in the last days we will take hold of a Jew by the hem of his robe because we see God is with them. When scripture speaks of the him of garments it refers to the tassels they attached to the hem to remind them to keep scripture in mind, so by the hem is to listen to scripture. With this in mind rather than their rebellion I explored their ways.

It could be that there are set principles that the world is operated under that atheist learn and go by and profit from as you say. But what impresses me about the Jew way was putting every bit of their life as belonging to God, and atheist wouldn't do that. According to the books I have read about the code they go by, this is the base of their code in every way. Even after a Jew decides against God, as many of them have, they have this so part of their culture the ideas that evolved from that sort of carries over into influencing the habits they do include.
 

Blik

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It seems what you describe as the Jewish, I speak of denominational Jews, is actually what Jesus, Yeshua, has accomplished for us allin being our Perfection. Now cosider He being the Head and we being th emembers of His Body, and ddthis is ruling with Godddddd or simply Israel.
What Jesus has accomplished for us is freedom. Through Christ we are free to live with Him, freed from the sin that bound us. That is God. That is our all. I agree.

I think we can consider taking an earthly step beyond that, going to establishing the kingdom of God on this earth. Gentiles don't put set ways of worship into their morning routine, of how they get up in the morning. It could be a good thing to do, it could be not so good. I'd like people to think about this, consider it, in the light of wondering if this is the key to the earthly achievements of the Jews and if it is a good or bad thing. I don't see how it could affect that we put Christ in our life, and put Christ first and foremost.