Not By Works

I think you forgot a portion.......and if we do not we will loose our salvation.

It truly amazes me to see how just about everything that I explain to you continues to go right over your head.

What irony.

If you promote a false Gospel then one should be concerned because they do answer to God.

Did you read the book? Do you think I whip crap off my hip? And I am seminary educated which involved the study of Greek and Hebrew....and my brother has a doctorate in Greek and Hebrew....your view was not a fair assessment and my post stands...there are nuances and tenses in Greek which the bible NT was inspired In thst are NOT BROUGHT OUT IN THE ENGLISH......not a fair or HoNEST assessment man and your point was moot.....ypu don't know me or what I have studied and or know pal

Being born again is being regenerated from above ....it is salvation.

It truly amazes me to see how just about everything that I explain to you continues to go right over your head.

What irony.

My point still stands, take James White for example, I guarantee you he knows more about "the greek" than anyoen on this forum. Yet the OTHER people who also know "the greek" disagree with James White.

ANd might I add: what language did the heretics in the apostolic times speak? YOu guessed it, greek! So they had the same writings, they knew the greek language and it did them no good!

I may not know greek, but I do know more than one language so I can compare how things are translated, and you can pick up any Bible and get the true doctrine from it, whether its NIV ESV NASB KJV NKJV etc. I trust the translators and ive compared the translations, they all say pretty much the same thing. Thats my opinion, if you dont like it, keep it moving, im not forced into agreeing.

The Holy Spirit leads into all truth!

N thats my last word on that topic. Lets leave it at that. We dont agree on that point!

A disciple is a learner.
But I wonder if you really understand what this means within the new covenant of Christ Jesus

followingpeterjenssteps logic- " I am not a sinless perfectionist, I just don't sin".
classic.

That is not good it received and x

But she has stated somewhere on here that she goes to the Church of the Nazarene.

It might be going over YOUR head my dear man.

Go read that article you posted again....
And it's Catholic!!!

Always talking about catholicism...
you must REALLY miss it.

Just go back to being a Catholc and stop thinking about it.

Like always I will have something to say

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

The Hebrew word "laws" is Torah... so Abraham did keep God's law/torah if I understand Gen26:5. The only difference is that God instructed Moses to write it down.

Blessings brother

Amen and morning/evening bro....910 Tues eve here in AU hahah

If you promote a false Gospel then one should be concerned because they do answer to God.

Occasionally when I remove sin as our enemy in life, and think about Jesus makes us His, only by the
cross, their positions become clearer.

In this context a phrase saying works are important condemns the speaker as evil and lost.
It is like a non-thinking belief system. So if I quote Paul saying we are slaves to righteousness I am evil.

Once you click into this mindset, life becomes dismissive, wrong word, gone.
Millions have been killed because of this ability people have, to cut across the heart, morality, love,
truth, reality.

The pharisees did it with Jesus. They needed the phrase so they could kill Him.
Once one falls for this, one is lost to God. God always starts with our hearts, and whether we
are prepared to be honest and open about where we are, and where He wants to take us.

It is clear to me many agree where they are, but deny Jesus wants to make them like Himself.
Until they do, they do not know Jesus.

And this one idea is enough for the believers here to call it evil, leading one to hell.
What a deception, what a simple blindness to Jesus's heart and teaching. And the excuses as
to why you can ignore Jesus teaching will just be accepted, because it stops them speaking to
their hearts and their hearts are desperately wicked and incapable of reform.

I attended this church when I was living in Maine. My late second wife's brother was the pastor and her sister played the piano.

I always say I dont like guys singing with that backstreet boys moaning/whisper kind of singing that wouldnt be possible without microphones (try that in the 1800s, they cant hear you in the first row!).

BUT here is my double standard on it: I do LOVE me some women singing in that emotional style! This song is one of my favorites:

You must have trouble reading....

The ENTIRE article agrees with what I've always said:
Here's an example....

Grace remains primary in Catholic teaching.

Neither faith nor works merit our justification. Justification is received by faith and perfected by works of charity, but it is not earned by works alone.

Yes, prevenient grace is needed even for our initial faith in Christ. No man can be justified simply by observing the moral law found in the Ten Commandments.

This is the authentic Catholic teaching of the Catholic Church. “And without faith it is impossible to please God” (Heb 11:6). There is a synergy between faith and works, as James teaches (Jas 2:24). It is not faith alone. It is not works alone. It is faith first and works following—each flowing from the wellspring of grace springing from the wounded side of the crucified Christ.

and:

We are therefore said to be justified freely, because that none of those things which precede justification—whether faith or works—merit the grace itself of justification. For, if it be a grace, it is not now by works, otherwise, as the same Apostle says, grace is no more grace.

source: https://taylormarshall.com/2013/10/paul-mean-by-faith-and-works-of-the-law.html

Posted by YOU,,,,mailmandan.

Thanks for proving me right...it was very thoughtful of you.