The Basics of Speaking in Tongues

I would say God makes no difference who or what gender he sends his prophecy as the gospel with. Female or male apostles. He is not served by human hands

Thou answereth rightly.

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I was hoping no one noticed.


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Listen, you judgmental attitude and all-knowing pronounciations on others is without patience and understanding.

I do not "decidee" for a miracle, it is always God workig in us all. Do not make me out as boasting in "your eyes" for my boast is and always has been kGod. You would fatigue me were it not my and our being accustomed to this type of posting.

Now, learn to give glorty, all glorty to God, and do not judge His servants as you have in your posts. You should chang your name totHE ONLY tEACHER, FOR YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT LEARNING FROM OTHERS HERE.

Have you ever asked God to be able to speak in tongues the way they did on the day of Pentecost?

Among a bunch of people who all speak my native language? Just for my own selfish desire for miraculous power and or experience?

No.

What was said to the crowds was inspired by the Holy Spirit, but the vehicles of communication were Greek and Aramaic - the native language of virtually all the Jews gathered there. Without going into all the details (for which, see many of the other threads on tongues or my blog post on languages at Pentecost) the 'list' given in the Pentecostal narrative is not one of languages; it's one of places. The Eastern and Western Diaspora to be exact. Jews living in these lands spoke either Greek or Aramaic as their native language.

At Pentecost, the God of the Jews was now 'formally' being made available to the (known) world without having to use what for centuries had been the only language acceptable (in Judaism); Hebrew.

Known, real, rational languages- not modern tongues.

Kavik,

I appreciate the clear explanation but you didn't answer the question asked. It wasn't about what you or I think that particular 'speaking in tongues' was, I was inquiring to see if you had ASKED to receive the same thing.

However, I would also like to know if you believe the "speaking in tongues" given at Pentecost in Acts 2 was the same 'speaking in tongues' attributed to those in Acts 10:44-46, and also those in Acts 19:6.

Thanks,
Kelby

I'll write a more detailed response as time allows (busy week at work) - they are the same in that all three events describe real, rational language(s). In the instances of Ephesus and the home of Cornelius, said languages may not have been known or understood by those listening/hearing them, but they were the native languages of those speaking. With regards to Ephesus, one has to keep in mind it was much like the city of Corinth; a virtual melting pot of cultures and languages - it was also the sight of one of the seven wonders of the ancient world which would have likely also contributed to the diversity (i.e. visiting "tourists"). Cornelius's soldiers and particularly his slaves could have come from literally anywhere in the Roman Empire; there are quite a few possibilities as to what their native language(s) could have been. In any event, they were obviously not ones Peter and his peeps recognized or spoke.

Not everything that occurs during each individual event is recorded in the bible; if so, the bible would be enormous. Concepts can be seen in two or three scripture witnesses that confirm one another. Acts 2:1-4, 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 10:44-48, 19:1-6.

Why would I ask God? How would that glorify my Lord? How would that help win the lost as it did then?
Everyone in my area speaks English as I do so I preach the Gospel to them in English.
Been working very well for over 50 years. So, why do I need to speak in other languages?

If you are boldly speaking a message in power, you know that the source is not your thought, then you are prophesying.

The gifts are for ministering to others, except for our prayer language which is not what we call the gift of tongues. Though it is tongues. Confusing? The gift is equal to prophecy but must be interpreted of course.

You don't think the other gatherings had the gifts too? Paul would lay hands on all to receive.

It's wasn't the gifts that created carnal actions.

I remember you took this position before in our discussions, but we both missed something: If what you believe were true, then why were the 3,000 diaspora Jews amazed? Did Galilaeans speak some lesser language that would've been expected?

Now just how are tongues used for "ministering to others"?

I am not confused at all, but you seem to be.

What language do you use in prayer.
I use English and God hears every word.
If your God does not understand English, maybe you are praying to the wrong God.

Well it is our God who gives gifts. Be careful with your accusations.