Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit

Blaspheming Holy Spirit also is to minimize His power. To cause men to look elsewhere other than to God for their help. Results in unbelief.

My word! The power was Holy Spirit through Paul's faith and anointing.

In the example you gave of Joe and the statement he said, I replied that I believe he did not commit a unforgivable sin. Jesus can still forgive him.

To me the unforgivable sin is to have a heart so hardened that one will never ever turn to Christ. The Pharisees hearts were hard when they accused Jesus of casting out devils by the Prince of devils. But whether at this point in time their heart was too hard for even the possibility of turning to Jesus in faith that I don't know for sure. The way I see it is that Jesus might have been warning them of the unforgivable sin. But I really am not sure just a possibility that comes to mind.

In our Gospels the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit was committed by attributing Jesus' exorcisms to demonic power. But hw might that sin be committed today? In the NT church the sin was committed by refusing to acknowledge divinely sanctioned prophetic gifts (See Didache 11). Indeed, that was the unanimous interpretion of the sin in the first 2 centuries. So today so-called Christians who attribute the ecstatic spiritual gifts to Satan are in real danger of committing this sin!

Greater works involve raising the dead. Can people raise the dead today?

Looks like prety much everyone..lol

It is not by sight that we should walk but by understanding. There are enough warnings about satan and how he works in this last days. The delusion is so strong that if it were possible, even the elect will fall for.
In this last days, there's no genuine gift here and fake gift there, all gifts ceased according to God's plan, whatever is happening today is all fake. I'm not saying there's no healing but there are no special people appointed with gift of healing to heal others- that ended during the Apostles life time.

can you prove they don't?

rhetorical question

greater works is salvation. have you ever led someone to the Lord?

the ministry Jesus spoke of was 'going into all the world'

some folks just minister with their tongue and use it like a fork...seems there is scripture about that also

wouldn't imagine anyone here does that though

Please extrapolate.

Jesus said whoever believes in Him shall do greater works than He did. I guess you are saving more people than God could ever do.

What a lie. Quit it, greater works does not mean salvation.

No, I think you associate the baptism with tongues. That's usually the first result.

Must go...

wrong again

the Bible says we walk by FAITH

please read Hebrews for a better understanding

perhaps your understanding is what is fake? it certainly is not biblical

if everyone here starts walking by what they 'understand', it ain't gonna be pretty

we walk by FAITH in Christ and in what HE has done. not be our understanding, but by faith because who here can claim they understand it all?

right

since salvation is greater than simply healing a person will eventually die, eternal life is greater

there is no lie and you need to curb your tongue. it's getting you in all kinds of trouble

Jesus said that anyone who calls their brother (or sister) is in danger of hell fire and here you are calling us liars

we are also to judge ourselves before we judge others

try it some time

So, are you saving more people than God?

I've reported this. people need to stay on topic and quit their nastiness and calling others liars and trying to put the thread on another course.

try to remember you say you are a Christian

I don't know if a mod will respond or not, but at least they now know that some just cannot actually respond to a post but have to create discord where none is intended and none is warranted

don't expect me to bother to respond to anymore of this type of goading and just plain trying to bully another from ANYONE

I can understand what you are saying

so would you ever consider that even those who profess Christ can have a heart so hardened they cannot see past their own self-righteousness? as was the case with the religious leaders of Jesus day. they sought constantly to trip Him and deliberately misinterpreted what He said

some would perhaps state that those who have such a heart were never saved or a believer in the first place...but I think we should consider the history of the Israelites and the undeniable fact that God will actually harden the heart of some

The "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. This case of blasphemy is called "the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" in Matthew 12:31. In Matthew 12:31-32, the Pharisees (who were not Christians), having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that the Lord was possessed by the demon "Beelzebub" (Matthew 12:24). Notice in Mark 3:30 that Jesus is very specific about what they did to commit "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit." These Pharisees were obviously not believers to commit such a sin. That specific type of blasphemy against the Spirit cannot be duplicated today. No one can witness Jesus Christ on earth performing a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit God. The sin that is unpardonable is the state of continued unbelief.