Easter vs Common Sense

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yada, yada, yada, yada.

That's all from the Bible; which to the objective mind is just another religious
story book no different than Sanskrit, the Book of Mormon, and/or the
Koran. It would probably be accepted in Sunday school, but no doubt be
laughed out of court as inadmissible "proof" that a Jesus Christ's crucified
dead body was restored to life in real life.

The Bible can't be used to prove that a Jesus Christ's crucified dead body
was restored to life in real life; the Bible can only be used to claim the
event took place in real life.

● John 20:29 . . Jesus said to Thomas: "Because you have seen me, you
have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

The Greek word for "blessed" in that passage means, among other things;
fortunate. Yes, people should consider themselves fortunate to believe just
from the Bible alone that Jesus Christ's crucified dead body was restored to
life because its claims are the sum total of proof they're likely to ever see for
themselves before they pass on.
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just as questionable as Sanskrit

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Many of the Christians that I encounter online and offline are cowards. They
simply cannot allow themselves to accept that they believe in supernatural
things and events that cannot be proven true.

I have no issue agreeing there are things that I explain,but
there are plenty of things science can't explain. Perhaps certain
things cannot be proven true but they can't be proven untrue
either. No matter how you slice it, both points of view take faith
to believe them.


They strive to appear intelligent, wise, and informed; while living in fear of being
found out that in reality they're just as superstitious as a Hindu, a Muslim, and/or a Buddhist.

This doesn't describe any Christian I know. Personally I find apologetics interesting
and have read books and listened to videos that give answers to many of the things
atheists/unbelievers may throw out there. I'm on various forums and liberal pages often
giving answers for what I believe, and often leaving them stumped as to how to answer.
I'm certainly not cowering in a corner that someone may question my faith. What I believe
has nothing to do with superstition and is no where close to what a Muslim or Hindu believes.


Easter is not a time to argue, it's a time to turn the other cheek. So instead
of fighting with their critics, Christians should try to sympathize with them
instead because to the honest, non biased, non prejudiced, non passionate,
open mind; the Bible is merely another religious story book whose credibility
is just as questionable as Sanskrit, the Book of Mormon, and/or the Koran:

No, Easter is a time to share the life and death of a man named Jesus.
Our job isn't to prove the Bible true, our job is to share the Gospel
message and let the Holy Spirit do the work. The Bible isn't just
merely another religious story. Share the truth of the Gospel and
lives will be changed.





thus useless as legitimate evidence that a Jesus Christ's crucified dead body
was restored to life in real life. The Bible can only be used to claim the event
took place in real life; and leave to every individual's own conscience as to
whether it actually did.

Years ago did a concert in a place known for satan worship. We were
warned that someone may jump up and try to stop the concert.
Nothing happened and we took a break. A couple young people
approached us and introduced themselves as brother and sister.
He said "our father is the head of the local church of satan, he's
a warlock". Then he said "we worship the Sun" The words that came
next were not my own. I said " we also worship the Son"... and my sister
and I witnessed to them both there in the VFW hall. That night, she gave
her heart to the Lord. We checked back almost a year later and she was
still in church. The Word of God is powerful, we don't need to prove it
right,we just need to share it and let the seed take hold.




● John 20:29 . . Jesus said to Thomas: "Because you have seen me, you
have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

The Greek word for "blessed" in that passage means, among other things;
fortunate. Yes, people should consider themselves fortunate to believe just
from the Bible alone that a Jesus Christ's crucified dead body was restored
to life in real life because its claims are the sum total of evidence that
they're likely to ever see for themselves before they pass on.


Well that's the most lackluster Easter sermon I've ever heard.


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Heaps of Steaming Nonsense:



Historical Evidences:

Christ's resurrection is generally proven in debate through historical evidences - the same criteria we use for other historical events.
To place a different burden of proof upon this event than we require of other historical events is simply to verify your own bias and presupposition... which is in no way indicative of either good history or good science.

There is more than enough compelling historical evidence for the resurrection to hold up quite well, even in rigorous academic debate with professional historians and philosophers.


Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Evidence?

Extraordinary Claims
The proposition that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" is a clever sounding bit of rhetoric, but it has nothing to do with sound logic. It is NOT a logical argument. It is an emotional plea. In purely logical terms, an "extraordinary claim" requires only SOUND EVIDENCE, the same as any other claim. And since the term "extraordinary claim" has no specific definition, we aren't even in a position to call ANYTHING an extraordinary claim in the first place, at least not with any certainty.

Extraordinary Evidence
To reiterate, we are not dealing with a logical argument here, but an emotional plea. It is nothing more than an emotional plea, a purely rhetorical means to raise the burden of proof to an unattainable level. We can even prove it's merely an attempt to raise the burden of proof to an unattainable level, as "extraordinary evidence" has no actual definition. The atheist intentionally chooses a measuring bar which has no actual, specific height, and no actual, specific definition, and thus it can simply be moved at will. Because the bar of "extraordinary evidence" can be moved at will, the goal of reaching it can never be attained. It is a con. It is a meaningless jumble of words meaning nothing at all. However, it probably does introduce us to the pinnacle of atheist debate - a nonsensical expression with fluctuating and impossible demands, demands which can never be met by anyone, not even the atheist. The atheist never places such high demands upon his own arguments, even when he makes "extraordinary claims" based on little more than presupposition.

The atheist takes two nonsensical, arbitrary, and fluctuating phrases, hammers them together into a Frankenstein of idiocy, and then holds them up as the very epitome of truth.

It is pure nonsense.

Pure nonsense from all angles.


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Many of the Christians that I encounter online and offline are cowards. They
simply cannot allow themselves to accept that they believe in supernatural
things and events that cannot be proven true. They strive to appear
intelligent, wise, and informed; while living in fear of being found out that in
reality they're just as superstitious as a Hindu, a Muslim, and/or a Buddhist.

Easter is not a time to argue, it's a time to turn the other cheek. So instead
of fighting with their critics, Christians should try to sympathize with them
instead because to the honest, non biased, non prejudiced, non passionate,
open mind; the Bible is merely another religious story book whose credibility
is just as questionable as Sanskrit, the Book of Mormon, and/or the Koran:
thus useless as legitimate evidence that a Jesus Christ's crucified dead body
was restored to life in real life. The Bible can only be used to claim the event
took place in real life; and leave to every individual's own conscience as to
whether it actually did.

● John 20:29 . . Jesus said to Thomas: "Because you have seen me, you
have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

The Greek word for "blessed" in that passage means, among other things;
fortunate. Yes, people should consider themselves fortunate to believe just
from the Bible alone that a Jesus Christ's crucified dead body was restored
to life in real life because its claims are the sum total of evidence that
they're likely to ever see for themselves before they pass on.
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Quoting one of the Bible's claims to validate other of its claims is
sometimes called circular reasoning. It's akin to acquitting an accused man
on the basis of him claiming he didn't do it.
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no attempt has been made to answer any of our critiques if your position.

The passage below is my No.1 rule of engagement when coping with difficult
folk.

● 2Tim 2:23-26 . . Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid
arguments, because you know they produce quarrels.

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The passage below is my No.1 rule of engagement when coping with difficult
folk.

● 2Tim 2:23-26 . . Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid
arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant
must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not
resentful.

. . .Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will
grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that
they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the Devil, who
has taken them captive to do his will.
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The passage below is my No.1 rule of engagement when coping with difficult
folk.

● 2Tim 2:23-26 . . Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid
arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant
must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not
resentful.

. . .Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will
grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that
they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the Devil, who
has taken them captive to do his will.
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So why do you start them?

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The credibility of the Bible as written evidence is just as questionable as
Sanskrit, the Koran and the Book of Mormon. To objective minds, the Bible's
witnesses are merely characters in a religious story book and it makes about
as much sense to take their word for anything as listening to Mr. Collins in
Jane Austin's novel: Pride And Prejudice.
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I'd have to agree with Weber here.

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The passage below is my No.1 rule of engagement when coping with difficult
folk.

● 2Tim 2:23-26 . . Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid
arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant
must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not
resentful.

. . .Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will
grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that
they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the Devil, who
has taken them captive to do his will.
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A portion of the scripture below is deliberately revised. Watch for it.

● John 20:29 . . Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have
believed; blessed are the gullible who have not seen and yet have believed."

The Bible, as a document, cannot be accepted into evidence to prove that
Jesus Christ's crucified dead body was restored to life. No, that would be like
handing over the deed to the Trump Tower to a strange man merely on the
basis of himself saying he bought it.

Carl Sagan once remarked "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence." In other words, the scientific mind accepts neither hearsay, nor
sophistry, nor circular reasoning; rather, insists upon empirical evidence.

The Bible claims, in so many words, that Jesus Christ's crucified dead body
was restored to life. Okay; but unless we're shown something solid to
corroborate the Bible's claim; then reason, logic, and common sense
demands that the Bible's claim be thrown out of court as spurious nonsense;
viz: a myth.

Faith is believin' what you know ain't so.
(Mark Twain)

NOTE: It's ironic that Jehovah's Witnesses and normal Christians bicker over
the physical aspects of Jesus Christ's resurrection when neither can produce
sufficient empirical evidence to substantiate their claims.
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