Born Again Speaking in Tongues

But only according Pentecostal and charismatic teachings.

Amen! I once heard someone who attends the church of Christ try to make the erroneous argument that these Gentiles in Acts 10:43-47 who believed, received the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues were still lost in their sins at that point and were not saved until they were water baptized "afterwards." He tried to argue from Acts 11:15 that as Peter "began to speak" as if that implies Peter said nothing yet and the Holy Spirit came upon them. Yet in Acts 10:43-44, we read - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. *So these Gentiles believed, received the Holy Spirit and were saved BEFORE water baptism.

Why don't you show us that love by confirming the sign that is associated with tongues? Rather than serving unknowns wonderments (mysticism) as it would seem. . . your true. . . fill me up love.

What does the outward sign reveal? Faithfulness or no faith that alone comes from hearing the words of God's prophecy ? Can't serve two masters. Or we are not permitted some do .

You can use the foundation of the doctrine (Isaiah 28) It helps explain why God mocks those with stammering lips as those who have no sabbath rest .

Show us the love brother Waggles . I will offer the portions of scripture. I call it the doctrine of : "yet for all that they still refuse to believe prophecy in any manner to include tongues". I will color code it to help undestad just who is in the picture.

I will be praying you might actual look to the foundation of the doctrine. Destroying that, then we can never receive his understanding .

I will be waiting for you love.. brother.

Isaiah 28:11-13 King James Version (KJV) For with stammering lips( mocking) and another tongue will he speak to this people.
To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

Brother Waggles lets not be childish in our understanding about it .let the tongue of God dwell in your heart richly . Don't fall backward..

1 Corinthians 14:20-22 King James Version (KJV) Brethren, be not children in understanding: howbeit in malice be ye children, but in understanding be men. In the law it is written, With men of other tongues and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord. Wherefore tongues are "for a sign", not to them that believe, (Christians) but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

Make the number it right?
Punching and hiting people for to heal them is not the way Jesus heals. But you can find this method among medicineman from tribals.

Amen! I once heard someone who attends the church of Christ try to make the erroneous argument that these Gentiles in Acts 10:43-47 who believed, received the Holy Spirit and spoke in tongues were still lost in their sins at that point and were not saved until they were water baptized "afterwards." He tried to argue from Acts 11:15 that as Peter "began to speak" as if that implies Peter said nothing yet and the Holy Spirit came upon them. Yet in Acts 10:43-44, we read - Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins.” 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who were listening to the message. *So these Gentiles believed, received the Holy Spirit and were saved BEFORE water baptism.

Then believe it, and follow it.
At the end our Lord judge us. But, I cant believe a false teacher and if he does miracles and wonders. I have learned that the word of God is the measure.


No, but I see the reality. And observe what our Lord Jesus told about it.

Make the number it right?
Punching and hiting people for to heal them is not the way Jesus heals. But you can find this method among medicineman from tribals.

Make the number it right?
Punching and hiting people for to heal them is not the way Jesus heals. But you can find this method among medicineman from tribals.

What I said had nothing to do with feelings either. My point was your constant insisting we do not feel Gods power. Its wrong. You have no idea what we have felt tasted or experienced about God.

Wigglesworth is not here to explain so let’s let this go. I gave his way of preaching to you wolf. Not healing. Why did you go beyond the point?

Interesting that salvation would be tied in with speaking with tongues.
Hmmmm,that puts quite a wrinkle in your stance that to be saved a person need not speak in tongues.

The truth is the Holy Spirit and Jesus are doctrine busters.

Doctrine says (cue stern wrinkled brow) the pattern is this and that. IT CAN NOT BE ANOTHER WAY.

Man with muddy eyebrows: "all i know is i once was blind,but now i see"

New doctrine: always keep mud handy.

Truth; your patterns are hit and miss at best. As is your doctrinal straight jacket

I am glad they got the Holy Spirit first.
I am glad that pattern exists.
I am free to invoke the Holy Spirit to save men that are lost. To move powerfully upon them to point them to Christ.

I wonder what percentage get save COMPLETELY APART from the Holy Spirit?
Answer;none

Wigglesworth would not waste his time on wolfs nothing burgers.
He would see wolfs agenda and cast that mess down.

I doubt mother Teresa herself could survive wolfs accusing spirit.
He curses men of God.
That is eerie.

Yes. She has unfortunately gotten very astute in "When are you going to stop beating your wife" type questions.

Wigglesworth would not waste his time on wolfs nothing burgers.
He would see wolfs agenda and cast that mess down.

I doubt mother Teresa herself could survive wolfs accusing spirit.
He curses men of God.
That is eerie.

absolutely not true

y'all love to bring down the hammer on those 2 groups but you don't have a clue

on the other hand, are they the only ones who practice Christianity as believers?

since I am neither, I can state with 100% accuracy that this oft repeated mantra of Pentecostal and Charismatics alone teach what you find abhorrent, was, is and will be wrong

many denoms have members who speak in tongues

I consider the silly answer you will no doubt respond with like this:



you could save yourself alot of time if you just copy/paste your responses.

And you know this how?

Yes. She has unfortunately gotten very astute in "When are you going to stop beating your wife" type questions.