Born Again Speaking in Tongues

If there isn't a shred of evidence for that interpretation anywhere in the tongue of God, Scripture? Where can we find it? Is it a unknow tongue as a unknown wonderment ?

Tongues is prophecy . What do you think the new language of a believers is when he offers the gospel that can drive our demons (lying spirits) Is it if God make a noise without meaning and it scares the pants off them demons and will it cast them out? That kind of new tongue? Boo?

And here I thought the mocking was for those who "yet for all prophecy to in include tongue they refused to hear". Do you fall backward? It mark the ones that mock God and see no evil in doing so . Those who yet for all prophecy to in include tongue they refused to hear prophecy the tongue of God

ASV And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues

The believers speaks the new tongue (gospel) in the name of the lord, as it is written. With their new tongue (not Boo) the word of God as His tongue it cast them out .

Peter quotes the prophet Joel on the day of Pentecost and explains it as follows:

But Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed them, "Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give ear to my words. For these men are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day; but this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 'And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; yea, and on my menservants and my maidservants in those days I will pour out my Spirit; and they shall prophesy. And I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth beneath, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke; the sun shall be turned into darkness and the moon into blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and manifest day. And it shall be that whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.'"

so again we see that God does not pour out His Spirit willy nilly but only on those who call on His name

it is important to remember that the Holy Spirit convicts of sin, so, if a person is not saved and has not turned from sin, God is not pouring out His Spirit on them except to convict them of sin and even then it does not mean they will turn to God

as we know many converts were Gentile...as we follow Paul we see him writing to Gentiles converted to belief in Christ as their Savior...so it is error to state Joel was only speaking of Israel

further, Peter states 'these' are not drunk...referring to the 119 people behind him speaking in tongues...so we do see that speaking in
tongues can be misinterpreted as something not of God as we have seen a number doing in this thread and in other threads that discuss the gifts of the Holy Spirit


it is vital to understand the order of the book of Acts and the fact that Peter told the gathered crowd below the building from which he spoke, that that which they were witnessing was the fulfillment of the prophecy of Joel in the book by the same name

there is only one gospel and those of us who are following Christ here and do speak in tongues and do have various spiritual gifts, have said so countless times while those who apparently are not afraid to lie, continue to accuse us and state ridiculous things that no one has said

When I read the OP I see someone giving "tongues" center stage, and he rationalizes his position by connecting it to salvation thinking he has a foolproof formula.

As we all know compete nonsense.

Even Peter qoute Joel 2, this what happend in acts 2 only can be a partly fulfillment of Joel 2. Otherwise Israel would live in acts 2 in a peaceful condition. It is not serious to take verses out of the context.
Today many pentecostsls take Joel 2 as a fulfillment for what happend in Topeka/Azusa and missing the fact that Joel was written for jews only!

I think perhaps because many people either want and/or believe 'modern tongues' to be something that it is simply not.

many people want to and do believe in Jesus

Yes, of course, but that has nothing to do with 'tongues'; He Himself never engaged in the the modern concept of tongues. He did, of course, speak in other 'tongues' (read (real rational) 'languages'), i.e. other than his native Aramaic - Hebrew, some Greek, and maybe a bit of Latin.

Once again

This thread is not about tongues or gifting. it is about the false gospel that one must be baptised in water and speak tongues to be saved.

All these people defending this truth because they are tryign to defend tongues just show their true colors.

don't let anyone fool you

every person I know who knows the spiritual gifts are real, believes that only the blood of Christ shed for us, cleanses us from sin

there is no other way to God but through our Lord Jesus Christ

a few people here are claiming we have more than one gospel and this is a disgusting lie and they know it

certain people try to spread false information to have things the way they want. they have a deep need to be in control and when they cannot get what they want, they stoop to lying and spreading false information and accusations

this is being done in this thread

there is but one gospel and myself and others here have never said anything else

don't give credence to the false accusation that we believe more than one gospel

when people lie like that, you have to wonder what spirit is behind that lie

certainly not the Holy Spirit because He does not lie

I guess. this is not honest approach on this thread saying others have never said anything else of the false gospel. I believe there is only a true gospel and it is only a pretense that in this thread others believe in the pure gospel while mixing it with water baptism. Isn't that a lie?

the devils also tremble

we should be careful what we give our ears to

there is only one gospel and that is salvation through Jesus Christ

why quote me? I simply quoted scripture

I believe that the blood of Christ shed for our sins is all that is required for salvation

some here misrepresent what I say or others say. that is their problem which they need to acknowledge if there is any hope

we cannot add to salvation

Thanks for clarifying. God bless

oh that's a real slippery slope you are on there

ignoring what Peter said and inserting you own fallacies and the usual red herring

I quoted scripture. you quote a book that I never quoted from, but that suits you because you cannot deal with actual scripture

next

rational

oh that's a real slippery slope you are on there

ignoring what Peter said and inserting you own fallacies and the usual red herring

I quoted scripture. you quote a book that I never quoted from, but that suits you because you cannot deal with actual scripture

next

The plural, "tongues", is right there in front of you, but you change it to the singular and claim that it means "the gospel".

Your position is simply wrong.

Then you maby should study bible first. Its common knowledge that you cant use scripture out of the context without going on a false trail

Why the new manner of prophecy called tongues? Was there a problem with the Hebrew tongue ?

Where do you find the foundation of the tongue doctrines quoted .And why is God mocking the faithless Jews as part of it. What does the sign confirm?