Did Jesus ever tell us that we no longer need to keep the law of Moses?

....But...they didn't ask for anything but deliverance from their bondage to pharaoh, Grandpa. They didn't ask for laws or statues or commandments. That's what the almighty asked from them. He asked, "will you obey me", and they answered "yes".




Now do I think He knew they wouldn't or couldn't obey? Yes, 100% in agreement with you.

But that doesn't mean He's going to get rid of what he asked for, because that's what he wants. His word can't return void once it's put out there.

We haven't imagined the bride he wants. No one imagined the 10 commandments. Everything came from Him. The only words recorded that were actually shouted by the living God to a mass of people all at once were the commandments. What getting rid of his words suggests is that he didn't know the bride he wanted the first time around. That He's the unstable one.

No Instead, He's going to make it possible to become the very bride he wants, as eventually Christ came to give us the very strength to use to obey...but WE have to use that strength.

Think about this...

How much of the total bible do you think speaks about obeying the Almighty and his commandments versus what can be interpreted as instructions not to try at all?

Have you ever notice? It's not even a 50/50 split. In fact only portions of Galatians, Romans and Hebrews come to mind that can be directly interpreted as "do not try".

The rest of Paul's letters, the other apostles letters, the record of Paul's words in acts, the gospels, the "OT" and the book of Revelation ALL speak about or include obeying God's commandments.

And then, we have testimony of one of the original apostles warning folks about misinterpreting Paul's words, which - regardless of whether Peter meant it one way or the other (and I'm not diving into that discussion again) - proves Paul's words can be misconstrued somehow.

So we have 95% of all of scripture saying also obey the commandments with effort and 5% that can be interpreted as "do not try", and that 5% comes from the one person that an *original* apostle said can be misunderstood...

Do you see what I mean?

Do you think for a second that God DIDN'T know they wouldn't be able to perform it?

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

I am WITH you, NOT I AM YOU. Not doing it for you, helping you. God isn't going to judge Himself, and how He did, HE IS GOING TO JUDGE YOU, and how you did.

and see, here is a big judeaizers mistake- you guys point to Matthew 28 for command keeping for salvation, or to maintain salvation, however you look it, same thing.

but, if go back several chapters, on the Mount of Transfiguration, God the Father said of the Son, " hear Him.

having said this in the presence of Moses ( the Law) and Elijah ( the Prophets), this elevates and separates the Words in Red from all Scripture.

so, you see, Jesus was NOT referring to the Law when He said this, as mandated by the Father.

of course, you judeaizers deny the Trinity as another way to prop your lies, so you will ignore this as bunk , but, I and others can only point it out.

if you reject it, then that is not our fault.

and see, here is a big judeaizers mistake- you guys point to Matthew 28 for command keeping for salvation, or to maintain salvation, however you look it, same thing.

Correct. Christ completes His work that He started in me and keeps chipping away what isn't of Him, and Jesus endured the judgment of God to save my soul. I am blameless through Jesus because I believe in Him. We believe that those who turn their back on Christ have never really believed to begin with. I take this from Jesus stating that He's lost none, except the son of perdition Judas, and then in that same place also stating He "knew those who would not believe" (speaking of Judas), thus those who would not believe are identified with the lost by Jesus Himself.
To make this point even stronger, Judas was one of the "believers" or disciples who had been around Jesus for years. Yet Jesus does not count him among His elect. He did not "lose salvation" - Judas simply did not ever believe Jesus.

You have agreed that you are no longer gonna be judged come judgment day, right? If believers who do not believe in OSAS were not really saved to begin with, who then will Jesus return for to bring salvation when he comes back? It couldn't be the OSAS since they won't be facing judgment anymore because they're already saved with an eternal irrevocable salvation whether Jesus comes back or not. Are those non-OSAS believers eagerly awaiting the Lords return merely waiting in vain?

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor? James 4:12

Do you acknowledge Him who is the one Lawgiver and Judge? Why would He be called as such if there is no law that people would have to be accounted for/judged?
Isn't it that God does not show favouritism?

It is true that those in Çhrist will not be condemned but they will still face judgment.

Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him. Hebrews 9:27-28

For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Ecclesiastes 12:14

God knows from the beginning that those who will believe in Him and His only begotten Son Jesus our Lord, and will continue in the teachings about walking in Love (2John 1:4-6, John14:20-24)until the end will be saved and be made worthy of the promised eternal life. God also foreknew and foretold of His coming wrath for the disobedient, lawless rebels, the evildoers, the unbelievers and those who sow to please the sinful nature. (Ephesians 5:6, Galatians 6:7-10, Revelations 21:1-8, Matthew 7:21-23, 25:31-46)

Judas was chosen for a certain purpose(Romans 9:15-18) to fulfill what was written. If it's not Judas then God can use anyone else but He chose Judas who is an apostle to show how Jesus would be betrayed in these last days by those who call Him Lord(believers) but rejects His words, laws and commandments. They will claim to know God but by their actions they deny Him.(Titus 1:16)

This is just gonna get longer so just a few more verses to consider then I'm out of here.

We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands. The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him: Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did. 1 John 2:3-6

What if some did not have faith? Will their lack of faith nullify God’s faithfulness? Romans 3:3

But I tell you that men will have to give account on the day of judgment for every careless word they have spoken. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” Matthew 12:36-37

Let's not run ahead but Let's run the race to reach our goal, the salvation of our souls. Only let us live up to what we have already attained. (2John 1:9-11, Philippians 3:12-16

Confess Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and Walk in Love.

God is good and His LOVE endures forever.

I don't have fear of losing salvation now, I believe eternal safety which makes me believe and follow more effectively
This seems a bit mind boggling, but in the light of Jeremiah 1:5, Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, God knew Jeremiah in advance, because Jeremiah has eternal life. Which means Jeremiah was communing in unity of being with God before his birth, and also after his death. This verse tells us Jeremiah was with God since the beginning of time alongside all the saints, because eternal life is sharing in God's oneness of eternal being. It's easy to understand then how the unforeknown are really not foreknown. They were never the part of God's being.

It is not mind boggling for me at all. I have studied this quite a bit. It is actually amazing how much is written on it. You know Satan didn't just show up in the garden "evil". We know he was made the full pattern and perfect at one time, till iniquity was found in him.
Right here is where mights and maybes become sure things. This is the solid foundation to build upon. God absolutely did know Jeremiah before Jeremiah was ever put into the flesh. Not only did He know Jeremiah, he had already been proved, God knowing who he was, how he could be trusted, God was therefore able to move and use him in the ways he did, and only because he was predestined, foreknown.

God said there will always be a remnant, and elect are the remnant, just living at the end of the fig tree generation.

DeighAnn said:


Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

I am WITH you, NOT I AM YOU. Not doing it for you, helping you. God isn't going to judge Himself, and how He did, HE IS GOING TO JUDGE YOU, and how you did.
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You must think you are posting in a different post. This post isn't about "maintaining salvation" .

This post is about Jesus and the law of Moses. That is why I posted just these 3 verses. That TEACHING THEM TO OBSERVE ALL THINGS WHATSOEVER I HAVE COMMANDED YOU, WHICH HE COMMANDED SOME OF THE LAWS OF MOSES.

Your reply, IN THIS CONTEXT HERE, makes it seem like I am saying something I am not. Please watch to make sure that you don't do things like this, because is makes all of us, as Christians, look a little devious as opposed to being wiser than the serpent. When you use the word "judeaizer" there are some who believe you are calling me unsaved. Are you calling me unsaved?