Is believing in the Trinity necessary for salvation? (POLL!)

Ancient days hmm probably before the 6 days sum 14.4 bill, 😝

Says nothing about believing in the Trinity.

I never said it did. Trinity isn`t a Bible word.

Then what was the point of your post?

Jesus tells us that he is the Bright Morning Star and stars often refer to angelic beings but who's angel is he is conjecture because it never tells us who's angel he is. But it makes sense that he is the angel of the Lord God which means that he is both the angel of the Lamb (or the angel of the Lord) and he is also the angel of God he is the angel of both of them. And the focus on the book of Revelation is because that book and the book of John is the testimony of Jesus Christ and the word of God which God gave him and Jesus Christ gave this testimony to John. The whole bible is the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus. Food for thought

By the way who is the angel of Jesus in Rev 22:16?

Maybe the following article will clear things up a little bit. https://www.watchman.org/articles/jehovahs-witnesses/jehovahs-witnesses-working-out-their-salvation/

IN GOD THE SON,
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That is because if you believe in spiritual things, you have already been born again of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. The natural man, before he is born of the Holy Spirit cannot discern spiritual things 1 Cor 2:14. Believing in spiritual things is a product of being already born of the Holy Spirit, not the cause of being born again.

I understand that, beloved, but the OP asks if one has to believe in the Trinity to be saved. His response had nothing to do with answering the question of the OP. And for the record, I do believe in the Trinity.

It was an answer to your post #43. I don`t know that you meant it like it sounds but it reads like you don`t consider the Holy Spirit part of salvation.

The thief from the cross did not have time to study theology... Jesus took care of his salvation.
Names are not translated they are transliterated. When we translate Jesus' name we get "salvation" or something alike. So your ignorance while giving others instruction is more comedic.

I can help with that.

Yeshua ben Yahweh, His Full name

Grace through faith in Jesus Christ is what brings salvation. That is the answer to the OP’s question.

That would be very accurate.
I sometimes say Yeshua, sometimes Jesus, and in my native language it's a completely different transliteration.
I just don't like when people get legalistic about names, like it's some invocation spell. God uses plenty of names for Himself in the Bible.

This question can't be answered. We are enabled to fully know the Nature of God. We are limited. How can God be three yet one we can not comprehend. Yet Pride thinks it can. We have enough for righteous living and appropriate worship. created does not dictate the Creator. Jesus is the only way the only life and the only truth. If you don't have him and you agree with or not the Trinity you are not saved. God is not in awe of your intellectual knowledge.

No grace without His Spirit.

Correct. Now focus on the question at hand? Do you have to believe in the Trinity to be saved? No, you do not. I don’t understand why someone would believe in Jesus and not the Father and Holy Spirit as well, but faith in Jesus is what brings salvation. Grace through faith in Jesus.

Ok, but what about this then?

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Some deny the Father.

The focus is Jesus.

Aint that something that ALL Bible based groups even the heretical ones agree: FATHER is God.

The "debate comes from the SON mostly. You got three "views" I have found:
-Jesus is God (The orthodox version, believed by MOST churches PROTESTANT and CATHOLIC)
-Jesus is the son of God, first born and first created being (the JW version, also some think He is Michael the archangel)
-Jesus is the son of God, fully human and came into being in Bethlehem (Unitarian view, very few hold to this one and they got some explaining to do TO ME as to HOW is not praying to and worshiping a glorified human NOT idolatry?)

Within the Jesus is God camp you got one REALLY dumb belief which is: the ONENESS people who say Jesus IS the Father, which thats probably the most ridicilous view possible, I mean, to say the Son is the same person as the Father is just SOMETHING ELSE! Where do people come up with this stuff?

I personally believe that Jesus is God (John 1:1) who became flesh (John 1:14). I do try my best to avoid "THE GODMAN" and "God the Son" terms because they are not biblical and the GODMAN sounds like a batman villain! I do understand what people mean, they mean Jesus is human and divine. I GOTCHA.

What makes it all so tricky is that while the OT CLEARLY links all these LORD texts to Jesus, at th same time the New Testament has Jesus saying things like "I go to MY GOD" and quotes the Shema, without mentioning anything to the Jew He is discussing with about no trinity! And thats where the problem comes in: Because the Bible never ever teaches on the trinity, or speaks about it, we are left to DEDUCE and ADD two and two together. One thing Bible DOES talk about is MONOTHEISM, there is only ONE GOD. But then we got John 1:1 that COMPLETELY contradicts it, right on its face, you got a second God hanging out there thats called Word, WHATS GOING ON HERE!? And thats where the NECESSITY of the trinity comes in. You need to reconcile Son being deity and Father being deity while maintaining ONE GOD. Thats how I believe the teaching came about.

Not gonna lie I wish it was as simple today as it was in OT times, one God, LORD, thats it, nothing complicated and no need to talk about "mysteries" or "well God is so vast we cant really figure it out" well in the OT they could! IT was this one God the God of Israel no persons no forms no modes just one God.

I get mad trying to figure it out BECAUSE: One of the most COMMMON questions i get from unbelievers is the TRINITY, they always ask about it, muslims especially