Abomination of Desolation

Hi Louis,

Yes, I am very aware that our bodies are the temple of God. However, you need to be able to discern the difference between the temple of the body vs. the literal temple in Jerusalem, which is what you are not doing. You just continue to ignore the scriptures which I am providing for you which demonstrate that the literal temple is in view.

What you are doing is simply misapplying the meaning of the temple here. Consider the following:

"So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination of desolation,’ described by the prophet Daniel (let the reader understand), 16then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. 17Let no one on the housetop come down to retrieve anything from his house. 18And let no one in the field return for his cloak."

So, according to the scripture above, the setting up of the abomination will be a sign for those in Judea to flee into the mountains. How could they see the abomination set up in the holy place if it was referring to the temple of their body. This is just ridiculous! Obviously Jesus gave this warning to those of Israel who would be on the earth during that last seven years, where in the middle that abomination will be set up. The "holy place" that Jesus is referring to, is the room just outside of the holy holies.

What you are also not understanding is that, a decree went out to Israel and Jerusalem of seventy seven year periods. Sixty-nine of those seventy sevens were fulfilled when the Messiah was cut off/crucified. From that time on the Lord began to build His church and which is also still in the process of being built. Once the Lord appears and gathers the church, then God will pick up right where He left off in fulfillment of that last seven years with Israel sacrificing and making offerings in her new future temple. According to Dan.9:27, in the middle of that seven years the antichrist will put a stop to the sacrifices and offerings and will set up that abomination in the holy place within the literal temple in the holy place. Seeing this abomination standing in the holy place within the temple is what will cause Israel to flee out into the wilderness.

So, while each individual of the church is the indwelt by the Holy Spirit, the holy place spoken of in the scripture is referring to Israel and her future temple (an actual building) where they will once again begin to perform their temple worship.

Nothing in Daniel 9:27, 12:11 or Matt.24:15, would support the holy place as referring to the body of the believer.

Stop arguing about it and use some simple scriptural logic!

Ahwatukee, Do you not see how your proposing a physical building that will be supposedly built by the faithless in Israel representing a holy structure of God, denies what the New Testament says represents God's true holy structure in us?

What you are forgetting is that unbelieving Jews are not looking to the New Testament. They are still waiting for their *true* Messiah. And the third temple and Messiah coming to Israel are tied together. Except that it will be Anti-Messiah who hijacks the temple for his own nefarious purposes.

Why do Christians assume that unbelieving Jews are believers in Christ? And why does anyone think that Bible prophecies will not be fulfilled simply because they have not been taught the truth?

So far no one has been able to provide me an answer as to what the lie is that people will choose over the truth so that they may continue to take pleasure in unfaithfulness.

So if the unbelieving antichrist Jews that reject Christ as their savior build a temple then God will consider that to be a holy place?

What you are forgetting is that unbelieving Jews are not looking to the New Testament. They are still waiting for their *true* Messiah. And the third temple and Messiah coming to Israel are tied together. Except that it will be Anti-Messiah who hijacks the temple for his own nefarious purposes.

Why do Christians assume that unbelieving Jews are believers in Christ? And why does anyone think that Bible prophecies will not be fulfilled simply because they have not been taught the truth?

The lie mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2 is the assertion by the Antichrist that he is the *true* Christ. And because he will be a miracle-worker just like Jesus of Nazareth, and will be empowered by Satan to deceive the whole world, his lie will be successful. See Revelation 13.

No, God will consider it an unholy place with a detestable thing sitting in it. It will *stink* in the nostrils of God (metaphorically).

But unbelieving Jews will be blind to that fact, and believe that the pretender sitting in that temple is God and Christ, and God has authorized the setting up of the Abomination of Desolation. That is because the true God Himself will send *strong delusion* upon the unbelieving world, as stated in 2 Thess 2, so that they believe the lie.

What is the abomination of Desolation? I would truly like to hear from you.

Ezekiel sees the greatest abomination
Ezekiel 8:15 And he further said to me: “Do you see this, O son of man? You will see detestable things that are even more terrible than these.” 16 So he brought me to the inner courtyard of the house of Yehovah. There at the entrance of the temple of Yehovah, between the porch and the altar, were about 25 men with their backs to the temple of Yehovah and their faces to the east; they were bowing down to the sun in the east.

Sun Worship

We are the temple of God. We therefore are the holy place in which the abomination of desolation will be set up, standing where it ought not.

I am having a thinking outside of the box day. Lol

I do think it refers to the Romans in regards to Daniels

Just throwing a few ideas out there in regards to Revelations. I haven’t thought this through very well it was just an idea to put out there.

If we are now the temple of the Holy Spirit following the work of Jesus. Maybe it relates to human beings becoming corrupt somehow. A time when it becomes so hard for the gospel to be spread and heard, that Jesus has to come back again.

Could it be something to do with messing with DNA, people choosing their own gender or having no gender for example.

We are created and loved by God, the temple for His Holy Spirit. I cannot think of any worse abomination or destruction that could happen, other than God’s created people becoming an abomination.

So if the unbelieving antichrist Jews that reject Christ as their savior build a temple then God will consider that to be a holy place?

Yeah that's a pretty bad abomination, but is it worse than killing the son of God, their Messiah?

Cant be, because it has to be a physical holy place for people,to,see it standing there

If you have ever seen some old footage of Hitler's rallies, you will see the people in the crowds displaying great exuberance. In effect Hitler was in the hearts and minds of the German people. He was their love, which is to say, he was their god.

Hypothetically now, if you were to place yourself in 1930's Germany in which you had a large family who you saw were all gaga over Adolf; would you then not recognize this false Messiah standing where it ought not, in the hearts and minds of your brothers and sisters?

Nope

Because hitler never stood in a holy place


We have to read it as the people of daniel would have read it, and they would never see it that way

Thats why the “term” was used, it meant something to Daniel as his people

If we are the temple of God and thereby holy as the scriptures indicate; then anyone standing in our hearts other then the Lord, should not be there.

1 Corinthians 3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.