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dcontroversal

dcontroversal

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Melach said:
do you think they go to hell for it? or God forgives if they misunderstand it?
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Only God can determine who makes the flaming pit....BUT......there is one gospel that has power to save a man.....believing into a false gospel will not save a man........as tragic as that is, it is the truth nonetheless......
 
dcontroversal

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Macabeus said:
He does agree with me on this point. So all the times you called me a works salvationist because I said that believers will not continue in a lifestyle of sin, you were calling him a works salvationist too. :ROFL:

I'm just waiting to see if DC denies saying it. Then I will give you your rude awakening.
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In all fairness.......You could not give @UnderGrace a rude awakening even on your best day.....she knows full well what I have said, believe and stand for.......on a side note....have you noticed that from day one you have been contentious....I was just reading your posts from way back.....and you seem to talk out of both sides of your mouth.....one minute speaking about fruit, works loving GOD as proof and then skewing, twisting or making snide remarks.......

and before you say a thing...I know I get mouthy, fired up occasionally, cut no slack, use sarcasm and sometimes heated verbal exchanges but I have on at least a half a dozen times apologized openly for over stepping the line........and or openly stood corrected....yet off the top of my head I have seen you defend yourself dogmatically and even while in error refuse to acknowledge the truth or being wrong?

Why is that?
 
Lightskin

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UnderGrace said:
Lightskin.... did you get a new stone, I like this yellow one much better.:)
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Yes, my Lady. The first one was red sea glass. I’ve been collecting sea glass for 10 years and that is the only piece of red sea glass I have ever found, that’s why I used it as my avatar. This one is a light brown with the sun directly behind it making it appear yellow. I love collecting sea glass. 😎
 
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dcontroversal said:
Off to town (round trip about 75 k) be back in a few hours.....keep swinging for the truth's sake peeps
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we use kilometers too. thats how we know you are in australia sometimes. america uses miles. you live far away from town. i have grocery store in my backyard. downtown is 3kilometers.
 
Lightskin

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dcontroversal said:
What is hilariously sad is the very text they use to peddle a losable salvation is actually saying it is impossible to LOSE IT.......but hey......they will find out soon enough....
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A few days ago Matthew 11:28–30 was used to support works rather than resting in God’s saving grace. 😳
 
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dcontroversal said:
Every time I read his name I chuckle and think that would have been a good nickname for Moses after he saw the back side of GOD and glowed HAHAHHA

Moses Lightskin.......
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That’s awesome! The crowd I roll with are Black, and lightskin is my nickname from them. I’m going to share with them what you wrote about Moses. That’s great stuff, brother. 😀
 
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Macabeus said:
Nice strawman army there. You passed up DC, GB9, and Lightskin for king of strawmen. Fine accomplishment

And yes, you will understand the Bible better if you read it in context😀
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nah, you just need someone to go off on, and it's granpa's turn.
 
dcontroversal

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Melach said:
we use kilometers too. thats how we know you are in australia sometimes. america uses miles. you live far away from town. i have grocery store in my backyard. downtown is 3kilometers.
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I just said K because of a few on here that use K.....obviously right now I am in Missouri and we use miles HAHH
 
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dcontroversal said:
AMEN........It is hilarious how people cannot take the whole of what is said to conclude certain truths.......here I will list a few things I have said AGAIN....

a. The SPIRIT is born of Incorruptible seed and does not sin (ever)
b. It is housed in a dead body of sin that is weak and contrary to the word and not subject the word
c. The battle ground is the mind and must be transformed
d. The greater the transformation the less we sin and more we submit to the spirit
e. The SPIRIT is indeed willing, but the flesh is weak
f. A child of GOD can, does and will sin because we still pack the flesh
g. A child of GOD will not live a CONTINUAL lifestyle of SIN
h. SALVATION is 100% instigated, completed, maintained by CHRIST
I. Saved children of GOD may bear every gambit of fruit from stunted all the way up to abundance based upon maturity
h. A saved child of GOD by FAITH is justified and righteousness REGARDLESS of any work or NO WORKS DONE
J. NO WORKS will justify and or necessarily PROVE anything concerning salvation*qualified below
k. EVERY man that has BELIEVED by FAITH has already produced 1 fruit of the SPIRIT regardless of any other production
l. THE Corinthian church had 15 SINS/ERRORS listed INCLUDING FORNICATION and YET identified as a CHURCH and BROTHERS in CHRIST
m. EVERY SIN past, present and future committed by believers is covered under the BLOOD and OUT BOUNDING GRACE of GOD
n. IF we as a BELIEVER walk in SIN, we will NOT LOSE salvation, BUT WE WILL be chastened to the POINT OF premature DEATH and or placed into the wilderness with NO REST in this life...this includes the possibility of disease, loss of children, rewards etc.
o. BELIEVERS have and do sometimes commit horrific sins but do not lose salvation (N, O evidenced by David, Psalms and Corinthian letter)

ANYONE that adds a MUST (other than believe), works, fruit bearing, religious hoop jumping, self maintained, Keeping one's self, etc.....to SALVATION to gain, keep, maintain salvation PEDDLES a false gospel.........a life

IT IS ALL JESUS or it is FAKE, FRAUDULENT and NOT OF GOD
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I thought you said 1 John 3:1-10 was talking about lifestyle of sin. Now your
dcontroversal said:
The fact that you disagree and then argue proves that you do indeed peddle a works based salvation.......everything I posted was based upon truth.....thanks for confirming to us all what we have been saying since you first started posting in CC and then slightly changed your approach to keep hidden what you truly believe.
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What did I disagree with? I agreed with you that a born again cannot and will not live a lifestyle of sin. 😃
 
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Lightskin said:
Yes, my Lady. The first one was red sea glass. I’ve been collecting sea glass for 10 years and that is the only piece of red sea glass I have ever found, that’s why I used it as my avatar. This one is a light brown with the sun directly behind it making it appear yellow. I love collecting sea glass. 😎
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I did not know about sea glass, learned something new today... in case anyone else is not aware

"Sea glass" is physically and chemically weathered glass found on beaches along bodies of salt water. These weathering processes produce natural frosted glass.[1] "Genuine sea glass" can be collected as a hobby and is used for decoration, most commonly in jewelry. "Beach glass" comes from fresh water and in most cases has a different pH balance and a less frosted appearance than sea glass. Sea glass takes 20 to 40 years, and sometimes as much as 100 years, to acquire its characteristic texture and shape.[2] It is also colloquially referred to as "drift glass" from the longshore drift process that forms the smooth edges. In practice, the two terms are used interchangeably

Link

I will have to pay more attention next time I go to the beach!
 
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dcontroversal said:
And God had it right when he inspired....

But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
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What does that have to do what eternally-grateful said?

Justification is but one aspect of salvation Sherlock

You are conflating justification with regeneration. 😂😂😂😂
 
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Macabeus said:
I’ve been talking about REGENERATION and saved by grace for days. So sorry you don’t know that these are works of God. 🤪🤪🤪
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I had no idea at all that these are the works of God, WOW! how did I miss that after all these years???

I am so am so thankful that as God's emissary you have enlightened us ALL.:)
 
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UnderGrace said:
I had no idea at all that these are the works of God, WOW! how did I miss that after all these years???

I am so am so thankful that as God's emissary you have enlightened us ALL.:)
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Why are you trying so hard to remember that I have been talking about the works of God, WHEN that’s ALL I’ve been talking about?

Being disingenuous is BAD FRUIT.
 
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