Many Christians are habitually refusing to admit error

A free-will, or Arminian, Judaizer cult.

So, two strikes against them

By the way, I'd appreciate it if you used the word Reformed.

And..in case I haven't mentioned it, I believe it is idolatry to worship free will like many do. Ultimately it is their free will that they attribute to their salvation, not God.

That is why I am Reformed. Reformed people are aware that they owe all the glory for their salvation to God, and they have nothing to boast about, including their wisdom for making a libertarian free-will choice.

Here's a song for you, bud....it shows how sickening free willers are, and how much they glorify themselves in their salvation.

I think you strive for perfection and as well has to see it in others from them to be accepted into your circle.

I think I mentioned exceptional circumstances.

That would be exceptional. The exceptions don't define the rule, though. Three percent of abortions are due to legitimate health risks, but this doesn't justify all abortions. I am speaking in terms of generalizations. Scripture provides generalizations, too..for instance, the Bible teaches against lying, but Rahab's lie to protect the spies actually was praiseworthy.

I hear ya, though I think Jesus learned most about life while eating and drinking wine with the people.

I don't think we can tell someone else what the truth is, for that is a discovery that each person must make. It takes effort, time, study, contemplation and prayer to find our way. If you tell someone what you think the truth is that can lead to resentment at the pushiness involved, or laziness, in that the person accepts something they have not worked for. He who seeks will find.....but finding doesnt happen without seeking.

Clearly you don't have children, and don't work as a teacher. If you are either, I pity those under your care.

I was of course talking about adults of sound mind telling other adults of sound mind. Children will be brought up hopefully with the best teaching available from the culture around them, but most importantly the value of questioning and finding things out for themselves.

this is too funny

seriously

it is



sounds like going for counselling to a marriage counsellor that has been divorced a few times

this is funny too

suffering is not God's intended relationship for marriage either

I'm not condoning divorce but I am not advocating that a man or woman should stay with an insufferable person just for how it looks

I would like to know how those who believe they have all their ducks lined up, proceed with those in deception

Deception is probably the most difficult thing to deal with, both for the deceived and the one trying to help them

oh

and

puhleezze with the scripture ... so many use scripture like a poisoned dart rather than trying to illustrate truth

(not applying that last to the op)

Guess you never heard of what’s dubbed as the FTO gene,

or hypothyroidism which cause the metabolism to be slow. yes new born babies can have these and other defects that cause being over weight. it can be a life long battle to maintain their weight.

Probably everything is a laugh to you 7keys

of course I have heard of it

but to be honest, having frequented gyms (including a pro gym) most of my adult life and continuing in a good exercise program, I cannot remember one single overweight trainer

you were simply making a point with another poster

Actually, I think suffering IS part of the marital relationship.

Marriage is meant to be a reflection of the loving union that Jesus has for the Church.

And he suffered for the Church.

Too many have forgotten (or never knew) that marriage is a model related to Jesus and the Church.

He didn't bail out on the Cross either.

Suffering is an integral part of the Christian life in general, let alone the family/marital relationship.

And you simply looking in the gym, that is not the only place for personal fitness training is needed.

No I haven’t I’ve never been married, sure You have wise crack for that?

Thank you. But that was not my question.
You said:
Nehemiah6 said:
Scripture is always the final arbiter of the truth. And it should become obvious to any third party as to who has solid scriptural support and who does not.



I asked.
Have you ever not?

Perhaps I worded my question poorly. Please permit me to rephrase in light of your answer to that post above.
Have you ever not been supported in your position by the scriptures?
Sure, as I have witnessed in discussions with others, we can excerpt a scripture to support what we're saying. That's easy.
However, the point should be, does the scripture in context of the passage where it is contained support your position?

Is this a stealth Bible translation thread?

guess again
hey listen...who brought up personal trainers?

you are all over the place and honestly, I am very very far from the personal comments you seem to want to engage in

lovely rabbit trail though

more like a foxhole version