Many Christians are habitually refusing to admit error

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maxwel

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Maybe the word I would use would be "innate ". As part of the divine patterning (image of God) within us all. God wants to bring forth the righteouss , moral response to a situation through us. We need the spirit to guide us, and to use reason based on love to bring forth wisdom. Jesus was constantly trying to get people to look deeper than just the surface of things. Morality is as much about the inner motivation and reason, rather than the outer action.
Are morals fixed and objective... or are they relative?
 

Whispered

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The Holy Spirit will convince other Christians through what is revealed in the Bible whether one is presenting the truth or not. We are not left to our own devices, but the Holy Spirit is the Divine Teacher of every child of God.

Let's take the Bible truth that Jesus is God. Is that plainly stated in Scripture? Absolutely. So how do we know this? From many passages, but one of the clearest is Hebrews 1:8,9: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

1. Who is addressing the Son of God? God the Father

2. Does the Father call the Son "God"? Absolutely

3. Does the Father confirm the eternal throne of the Son? Absolutely

4. And yet is God the Father the God and Father of Jesus Christ? Absolutely

5. Who are the "fellows" of Christ? They are the partners or partakers or sharers with Christ, and that means all the children of God.

6. Can these things be comprehended with the natural mind? No

7. Will all genuine children of God agree that Jesus is God? Absolutely.
You didn't answer my question concerning your responsibility in affirming you are correct when citing scripture to support your point.

All Christians are filled with the Holy Spirit. However, those scriptures that refer to discernment, and that warn, do not believe every spirit but test, are relevant to one's self-defense when they say their interpretation of scripture was due to the Holy Spirit.
When people ask questions, such as that which I inquired of you, and that you have not yet answered, that is the test we're told to perform.
Discernment is vital. You may think all of your responses to queries concerning your scriptural understanding are questioning your understanding of the Holy Spirits leading, however, in truth since you wrote your post in any thread the query is one directed at you personally first.
Responding with what amounts to, "the Holy Spirit did it, said it, " just doesn't cut it. Especially when someone can read your scriptural argument and find error in your interpretation.

Therefore, if you will indulge me, I'll ask my prior question in a different format now. Are you ever wrong in your scriptural arguments and provided proofs?
 
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No law no trespass people perish.

Proverbs 29:18 Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.
 

Dino246

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Can you say why? Perhaps an example?
Relative morals don't provide a basis on which to judge actions as right or wrong. Therefore, you can kill your neighbour with impunity because it's consistent with your morals.

Relative morals make the individual the locus for judgment, not society as a whole and certainly not God.
 
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Relative morals don't provide a basis on which to judge actions as right or wrong. Therefore, you can kill your neighbour with impunity because it's consistent with your morals.

Relative morals make the individual the locus for judgment, not society as a whole and certainly not God.
I didn't say that morality itself is relative, but the particular rules and regulations we use may be relative. The absolute morality is Love. But to apply love we need knowledge; these two together create Wisdom. Each situation requires us to be wise; so we realise that one particular rule appropriate to one situation wont necessarily apply to all situations.
 

Whispered

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I didn't say that morality itself is relative, but the particular rules and regulations we use may be relative. The absolute morality is Love. But to apply love we need knowledge; these two together create Wisdom. Each situation requires us to be wise; so we realise that one particular rule appropriate to one situation wont necessarily apply to all situations.
Perhaps the truism, morality is not universal, is what you are looking for?
Hoping to help.
 

Nehemiah6

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Therefore, if you will indulge me, I'll ask my prior question in a different format now. Are you ever wrong in your scriptural arguments and provided proofs?
I would hope not. After I was saved, I made a commitment to only present God's truth as revealed in Scripture, regardless of whatever teachings were out there. I also made a commitment to diligently study the Word of God and did so. I also made a commitment to determine which English translation was based on the true Bible text, and did my due diligence. And every Christian can do the same.
 

Whispered

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I would hope not. After I was saved, I made a commitment to only present God's truth as revealed in Scripture, regardless of whatever teachings were out there. I also made a commitment to diligently study the Word of God and did so. I also made a commitment to determine which English translation was based on the true Bible text, and did my due diligence. And every Christian can do the same.
Which English translation did you decide upon?
Also, are you aware there is no, original, available for such comparison.