Not By Works

No such thing as"believing" in Him for salvation. The word in the Greek is "pisteuo". Pisteuo is defined as"a personal surrender to Him and a life inspired by such surrender."

Now that you've been warned, you'll be held accountable for spreading this false path!

Repent and personally surrender your life to me,living a life inspired by such surrender."

That's the true meaning of Mark 1:15

No such thing as " believe in the Gospel" for salvation.

Stop spreading a false narrative!

you have no authority to warn anyone. you are bearing witness of yourself, that is invalid.

and, by the way, since you insist that pisteuo is mis-translated, and should be " surrender" then why was the word paradidomi , which means a personal surrender, why was that word not used?

I mean, it was used 122 times, it is not a obscure word.

New International Version
For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.

Hebrews 8:13 13By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

Hebrews 9:15 15For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance-now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

you have no authority to warn anyone. you are bearing witness of yourself, that is invalid.

and, by the way, since you insist that pisteuo is mis-translated, and should be " surrender" then why was the word paradidomi , which means a personal surrender, why was that word not used?

I mean, it was used 122 times, it is not a obscure word.

Covenant is the 'how', God's command(law) is the 'what'. The what (God's command) was not abolished but the 'how' (covenant) has changed to a better one because now the command is in the hearts of men to judge them.

Rom 3:31Do we, then, nullify the Law by this faith? Absolutely not! Instead, we uphold the Law.

It's you who is spreading a false narrative by confusing the "essence" of repentance (change of mind) with the "fruit" of repentance (change of actions). The Bible tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions. Acts 26:20 declares, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." This is the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8), not the essence of repentance. The end result of confusing the fruit of repentance with the essence of repentance is salvation by works. The believer surrenders their life to Christ the moment that we place our faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. The life inspired by such surrender is the fruit of salvation, but not the root of it. Your skewed doctrine equates to salvation by faith + works.

Matthew 21:32 - For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Mark 1:15 - ..repent and believe in the gospel.

Acts 11:17 - If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?” 18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life.”

Acts 20:21 - ..repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

You can keep telling yourself that there is no such thing as "believe in the gospel" for salvation, but you are not fooling me or any of my brothers and sisters in Christ on Christian Chat.

It's you who is spreading a false narrative by confusing the "essence" of repentance (change of mind) with the "fruit" of repentance (change of actions). The Bible tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions. Acts 26:20 declares, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." This is the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8), not the essence of repentance. The end result of confusing the fruit of repentance with the essence of repentance is salvation by works. The believer surrenders their life to Christ the moment that we place our faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. The life inspired by such surrender is the fruit of salvation, but not the root of it. Your skewed doctrine equates to salvation by faith + works.

Matthew 21:32 - For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Mark 1:15 - ..repent and believe in the gospel.

Acts 11:17 - If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?” 18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life.”

Acts 20:21 - ..repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

You can keep telling yourself that there is no such thing as "believe in the gospel" for salvation, but you are not fooling me or any of my brothers and sisters in Christ on Christian Chat.

It's you who is spreading a false narrative by confusing the "essence" of repentance (change of mind) with the "fruit" of repentance (change of actions). The Bible tells us that true repentance will result in a change of actions. Acts 26:20 declares, "I preached that they should repent and turn to God and prove their repentance by their deeds." This is the fruit of repentance (Matthew 3:8), not the essence of repentance. The end result of confusing the fruit of repentance with the essence of repentance is salvation by works. The believer surrenders their life to Christ the moment that we place our faith (belief, trust, reliance) in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. The life inspired by such surrender is the fruit of salvation, but not the root of it. Your skewed doctrine equates to salvation by faith + works.

Matthew 21:32 - For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him.

Mark 1:15 - ..repent and believe in the gospel.

Acts 11:17 - If therefore God gave them the same gift as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, who was I that I could withstand God?” 18 When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life.”

Acts 20:21 - ..repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

You can keep telling yourself that there is no such thing as "believe in the gospel" for salvation, but you are not fooling me or any of my brothers and sisters in Christ on Christian Chat.

It does not get any plainer..........Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!

English Standard Version
he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit,

Berean Study Bible
He saved us, not by the righteous deeds we had done, but according to His mercy, through the washing of new birth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.

Berean Literal Bible
He saved us, not by works in righteousness that we did, but according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit,

New American Standard Bible
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit,

King James Bible
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Why is it every time I ask the group here to explain their understanding of the salvation process, crickets!

Really, " the fruit of repentance"? That's a good one !

No such thing as believe! The Greek language doesn't even have a word in their language for the words believe, believer, and believing!

because salvation is not a process.

so, you just go with one professor at uber-liberal Stanford's private translation of one word, and we are just supposed to take his word over hundreds of years of historians and scholars translating it the right way? yep, that sounds reasonable.....

and, by the way, you never answered my question- if the proper translation is surrender, then why was the word for surrender not used?

ask the prof that one.

Perhaps you would present your understanding of the salvation process? Nobody will!

From the start, put it on the table to be tested.

Matthew 3:8; Luke 3:8 - Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance. So you reject these passages of scripture?

Acts 26:20 - but declared first to those in Damascus and in Jerusalem, and throughout all the region of Judea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent, turn to God, and do works befitting repentance. So you don't understand the difference between fruit/works and repentance?

Salvation process? Usually when someone says that salvation is a "process" they teach salvation by works. What happens is the 3 tenses to salvation get mixed up by works-salvationists.

1. We have been saved from the PENALTY of sin (justification)
2. We are being saved from the POWER of sin (ongoing sanctification)
3. We will be saved from the PRESENCE of sin (glorification)

If it's not a process, then what is it?

Do I need to drag it out of you all,this should be the most exciting thing you could ever Baer witness too. You all seem to be ashamed of what your standing on.