So it happened again,,,

I think that's an unfair indictment that imparts all police do this. There are bad cops just like there are bad people in any job.
Not all are bad. Not all police are good.
These type headlines are not that common, though one headline is bad enough.

There are plenty of stories wherein police are gunned down. Unfortunately, people don't give those that much attention.
I wonder why?
In the last 39 weeks 30 police officers have been killed in the line of duty. If for even just a moment the thoughts, "good! serves them right!", "So what!" or similar sparked in your mind, maybe the problem isn't police.







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The officer that was charged in the Ft.Worth Texas shooting is entitled to due process. Just like anyone else. If we lose sight of that because he's a cop, we're really barking up the wrong tree claiming to take offense at this Ft. Worth tragedy . When the tragedy is, those who think a cop accused is automatically guilty of what they're accused of. And deserve to die.
That attitude doesn't make us better than the bad guy. It makes us just like the bad guys.

May God's mercies , compassion, and forgiveness, extend to officer Aaron Dean . And may our Lord's strength uphold his family and friends, as it continues to uphold the family and friends and the young nephew of Atatiana Jefferson .

I think the video I posted shows that the indictment is pretty fair.
The general behavior of the police is to bully, harass, and violate people's rights. The minority of police are good and try to enforce the law.

This is not an excuse for criminal thugs to get away with murdering cops.

Our entire criminal justice system needs a severe over haul, and some serious reform done. Which may needs be that a hand full of cops, prosecutors, and judges, be procecuted, and punished, some may be reformable but permanently removed from any public service arena.

The fact in this case an overly aggressive, and under trained, cop murdered someone in cold blood because he could. I hope his trial is speedy and Justice served promptly.

I think that's an unfair indictment that imparts all police do this. There are bad cops just like there are bad people in any job.
Not all are bad. Not all police are good.
These type headlines are not that common, though one headline is bad enough.

There are plenty of stories wherein police are gunned down. Unfortunately, people don't give those that much attention.
I wonder why?
In the last 39 weeks 30 police officers have been killed in the line of duty. If for even just a moment the thoughts, "good! serves them right!", "So what!" or similar sparked in your mind, maybe the problem isn't police.







Preliminary 2019 Fallen Officer Fatalities

Officer Fatalities by State – 2019
View Recently Fallen Heroes

The officer that was charged in the Ft.Worth Texas shooting is entitled to due process. Just like anyone else. If we lose sight of that because he's a cop, we're really barking up the wrong tree claiming to take offense at this Ft. Worth tragedy . When the tragedy is, those who think a cop accused is automatically guilty of what they're accused of. And deserve to die.
That attitude doesn't make us better than the bad guy. It makes us just like the bad guys.

May God's mercies , compassion, and forgiveness, extend to officer Aaron Dean . And may our Lord's strength uphold his family and friends, as it continues to uphold the family and friends and the young nephew of Atatiana Jefferson .

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

I have little interaction with the police. I have a couple that attend church with me and they are solid Christians. The police I meet on the street and in the donut shops are real good men and ladies as well. Just don't understand the lack of respect for these folks.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

I think the video I posted shows that the indictment is pretty fair.
The general behavior of the police is to bully, harass, and violate people's rights. The minority of police are good and try to enforce the law.

This is not an excuse for criminal thugs to get away with murdering cops.

Our entire criminal justice system needs a severe over haul, and some serious reform done. Which may needs be that a hand full of cops, prosecutors, and judges, be procecuted, and punished, some may be reformable but permanently removed from any public service arena.

The fact in this case an overly aggressive, and under trained, cop murdered someone in cold blood because he could. I hope his trial is speedy and Justice served promptly.

in Texas we do have the castle doctrine and the castle doctrine also extends to your vehicle as long as you are occupying it. in some cases it has extended to neighbors homes if they have we asked you to watch and keep an eye on their home.
The castle doctrine protects your property at night, but only inside your home during the day light hours or your vehicle if you are in it at the time.

Wow there is a lot here to address.
One in the other thread I felt the officer was not justified, but also not guilty of murder. She was exhausted and made a grievous mistake, and she received just punishment. So I am not a cop hater. The problem is more the infrastructure and culture of the police departments, and a very broken criminal justice system.

I'm quite sober and had the roles been reversed that man would have spent the rest of his life in prison.
And remember Texas was the same state where Sandra Bland got pulled from her car gym clothes style for not putting out a cigarette.
So it wouod seem Texas has a problem with overly aggressive police officers

I get that people tend to get belligerent when they are confronted by police officers
However as a professionally trained police officer, your job is to try to de' escalate the situation instead of doing the exact opposite.
Same reason the fire department doesn't use gasoline to put out a fire

I'm quite sober and had the roles been reversed that man would have spent the rest of his life in prison.
And remember Texas was the same state where Sandra Bland got pulled from her car gym clothes style for not putting out a cigarette.
So it wouod seem Texas has a problem with overly aggressive police officers

Texas is particularly a problem, there is a book called, "terror on the highway," about the corruption and evil of law enforcement on highway 59 through San Jacinto county. It's a true story.

I worked off shore in the gulf in the early 80's but spent my winters around Houston. 2 at the Key Truck stop on I-10 east of Houston in Channel view.

Man that's a rough part of town. what was you doing there?

The fact in this case an overly aggressive, and under trained, cop murdered someone in cold blood because he could. I hope his trial is speedy and Justice served promptly.

I don’t think this is a correct perspective on the subject at hand. Is your position on this that he walked up to outside her window and opened fire in cold blood?

Unfortunately the accurate reason for this incident is not very comforting either. He probably wasn’t up to the situation and opened fire prematurely.

It’s not easy beforehand telling who’s gonna crack under pressure, but it is obvious that this part of the training needs improvement.

The biggest issue I have is how do you know it's not a prowler?

I haven't had the best interactions with police. It's the guilty until proven innocent stuff that bothers me as well as getting arrested for resisting arrest as your only charge, and yes that can happen. As well as obstruction.

Obstructing justice is very much in the eye of the beholder.

It also bothers me that recording of police puts up red flags and anger from them. I get that no one likes to be under a microscope but...? There's also the fact that qualified immunity exists and how it can be abused.



Just a friendly F.Y.I. Yes they can pull you over for no reason, yes they can order you out of the vehicle for no reason. It is jarring and unpleasant to have this potential situation every time you drive but bear it in mind it can happen. Doesn't mean it's legal to pull you over without cause but that is irrelevant when it happens.

The guys in the video committed no crime but we're threatened with arrest and trumped up charges.

That's their training everybody is guilty of something, and everybody is the enemy.