Prophesying Forbidden
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6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
I was talking in Corinthians, about interpreter to the message given in tongues , and confirmation to the interpretation by two or 3 others, waiting to tell the interpreter he was spot on .. I didn't know what to do except just quietly go up to them and say something like ''you nailed it bro'' or ''I got the same exact thing bro'' ..
I have had the interpretation but was afraid to stand and speak up, afraid it was me and not the Holy Spirit, and left the original speaker hanging but I didn't realize what was happening, that time she waited on me then she interpreted herself .. And Ive been a confirmer along with 2 or 3 more ..
It was peculiar when it happened .. Every one would be singing , praising, worshipping Jesus , then everything would get quiet then one would stand up and speak in tongues , then quiet again, then another would stand up and deliver the interpretation, and if you had the confirmation you had heard it from the original speaker and know the interpreter was correct .. Most messages were encouragement and edification to the church or even an individual message to a person or persons .. I know sometimes I wasn't interested like it was none of my business , I still listened but just wasn't or pertained to me ..
7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?
8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?
I was talking in Corinthians, about interpreter to the message given in tongues , and confirmation to the interpretation by two or 3 others, waiting to tell the interpreter he was spot on .. I didn't know what to do except just quietly go up to them and say something like ''you nailed it bro'' or ''I got the same exact thing bro'' ..
I have had the interpretation but was afraid to stand and speak up, afraid it was me and not the Holy Spirit, and left the original speaker hanging but I didn't realize what was happening, that time she waited on me then she interpreted herself .. And Ive been a confirmer along with 2 or 3 more ..
It was peculiar when it happened .. Every one would be singing , praising, worshipping Jesus , then everything would get quiet then one would stand up and speak in tongues , then quiet again, then another would stand up and deliver the interpretation, and if you had the confirmation you had heard it from the original speaker and know the interpreter was correct .. Most messages were encouragement and edification to the church or even an individual message to a person or persons .. I know sometimes I wasn't interested like it was none of my business , I still listened but just wasn't or pertained to me ..
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There are those who see after an 'experience' rather than after God....and I am reminded of this scripture:
Matthew 7:22-23 King James Version (KJV)
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Matthew 7:22-23 King James Version (KJV)
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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It is presumptuous to assume from those verses that these things have been done away with. It does not say that. It is speaking in the future tense, otherwise it would say in v8 for example, that prophesies and tongues 'HAVE BEEN' done away with, rather than 'WILL BE'. This is why in verses 10, 11 & 12 it speaks about the time when we are with Christ. This letter was written after Christ had been on this earth, so these verses are referring to when He returns.
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Yes, there are two different kinds of prophecy but the spelling of those words do not show it. One is the noun and the other is the verb form. Our Bibles refer to prophecy as foretelling the future but it is also described as preaching the word. So, the context is important when reading about them.
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Altho ugh most of the time we read about them they are of god but not always. When Saul stripped naked and layed on the ground in the tent of the meeting he most likely what we call now days ranting like a lunatic, because he had an evil spirit from God and certainly was not a prophet by then. And the 450 Prophets of Baal vs. Elijah were not of God either. Not to mention the 400 of Asherah. There are plenty of warnings to watch out false prophets. Perhaps people possessed by demons can be mistaken for prophets just like Saul.
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Actually, the spelling does show the difference. “Prophecy” is the noun form, ending in a “see” sound, while “prophesy” is the verb form, ending in a “sigh” sound.
In Scripture, prophesying never means just preaching the already-recorded word of God.
In Scripture, prophesying never means just preaching the already-recorded word of God.
I often wondered how some would see this,
In Joel 2:28 and Acts 2:17 the sons and daughters prophesy(esy) so it is something new. In Matthew 11:13 the prophets and the law prophesied until John. In Luke 24:44 everything written in the law of Moses,prophets and psalms of Jesus must be fulfilled. Then in 1 Corinthians 13:8 they shall fail.
Then so their are at least two groups ending and beginning at John. Now Jesus gave many prophecies after John. The apostles gave prophecies after John. John was told in Revelation 10:11 he must prophesy again and in the prophecy he was given (Revelation 11:3) the two witnesses will prophesy 1260 days so in the prophecy(Revelation) it foretells of prophets to come as part of it's prophesy.
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Actually, the spelling does show the difference. “Prophecy” is the noun form, ending in a “see” sound, while “prophesy” is the verb form, ending in a “sigh” sound.
In Scripture, prophesying never means just preaching the already-recorded word of God.
In Scripture, prophesying never means just preaching the already-recorded word of God.
It is presumptuous to state that the future time is when we are with Christ. There will be no need for gifts of the Holy Spirit when we are in our glorified bodies. Israel will find them essential during the end of the great tribulation period which is what Joel 2 is telling us.
The perfect is most probably the completed canon of scripture. When the revelation through scripture had been completed the primary tool for evangelism and sanctification was with the church.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The perfect is most probably the completed canon of scripture. When the revelation through scripture had been completed the primary tool for evangelism and sanctification was with the church.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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The first part, about word usage, or the second part? I know lots of people who don't agree with the second part, but they are cessationists who have to find some way to expound on Ephesians 4... and relegate pastors/teachers in the process.
Prophets = G4396
προφήτης
prophētēs
prof-ay'-tace
From a compound of G4253 and G5346; a foreteller (“prophet”); by analogy an inspired speaker; by extension a poet: - prophet.
Many consider preaching under this definition.
Yes, I realize that. However, there isn't a single person called "prophet" in Scripture whose activity is limited to merely preaching. I don't consider any modern-day preachers to be "inspired" in the same way that Isaiah, Daniel, or Agabus were "inspired".
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