Not By Works

You do not understand what “sin” is, and what God thinks of “All sin” that is proven by what you say.

Nor do you understand marriage and Gods provision for it. If I did not know better, I would think you were mormon.

Was not necessarily calling you a fool.....this site is replete with salvation losers, cainologists and Pharisees that constantly devaule Jesus, his faith, power and promises and the irrevocable gift of eternal life that he MAINTAINS BY THE FAITH HE BEGINS, FINISHES AND COMPLETES...we are KEPT by his power.....and if you hang long enough you will see an incessant assault on the truth, God, Jesus and those that hold to the truth by those that worship a Jeezus not found in scripture.....Sorry if I offended you or if it seemed like I was railing on you personally.

Amen....nor do they keep us saved, top off our salvation, finish our salvation......!! Evidence of, sure, but.....

To the one that WORKS NOT, but BELIEVES ON HIM THAT JUSTIFIES the ungodly, HIS FAITH is credited for righteousness!

All good queen butterflyyy haha no biggie

Do you teach that man is saved by grace through faith plus obedience/works? I've been in multiple discussions over the years with Roman Catholics and Seventh Day Adventists who promote salvation by works and Revelation 22:14 is a common verse they quote to support salvation by works.

In Revelation 22:14, "do His commandments" does not mean that we merit eternal life based on the merits of our performance, but is the evidence that we have been granted eternal life through faith and are born of God. This is not about sinless perfection either. In 1 John 2:3, we read - By this we know that we have come to know Him, *(already know Him/already saved/demonstrative evidence)* if we "keep" (Greek word "tereo" - guard, observe, watch over) His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep (guard, observe, watch over) His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

Other translations of Revelation 22:14 read, "Blessed are those who wash their robes," which symbolizes those who have been forgiven of their sins through the blood of the Lamb (Romans 3:24-26). *Also see Revelation 7:14. Revelation 22:15 is descriptive of unbelievers.

Grace is a position that a believer is placed into by God.....

Ephesians -> In the grace we are, having been saved OUT OF FAITH....

Romans--> In the GRACE WHEREIN we now STAND

We are born spiritually from above by the Holy Spirit and we REFLECT the LIGHT OF THE SON OF GOD by being TRANSFORMED by HIS WORD!

Hey, by the way...and to all my friends that hold to the truth....It is almost New Years here in Sydney.....2 hours to go....Happy New Year my friends.....watching the ole 65 inch HD Plasma, having a rare drink in moderation, jammin a little music....and STILL SAVED ETERNALLY.....miss you guys

I do not understand how anyone can miss the truth of an instatanious eternal birth by faith.....even a simple cursory read of the bible sets this forth as clear as broad daylight!

I agree with you.

Happy New Year Blueeeeeeeeeeeee hahaha woooohoooooooo A little BAILEYS HAHAHAHHA

I put junior achievement on ignore before I got banned.....his dime store rigmarole infuriated me......such a devaluation of Jesus is was about to make me vomit!

I would not say none because God always has a faithful few....most do not resemble him compeletely <---yes indeed.....and for sure MOST fail in some form or fashion and many of us show Jesus at times.....not always, but at times for sure

@EleventhHour Good morning, good evening and almost happy New Year from down under hahah

Right back to you friend....
Happy New Year to the one in the land down under!

Are you sure he was a Christian man? Sounds like a straw man argument to me. 1 John 3:9 - No one who is born of God practices sin..

Those who are born of God confess "speak the same/acknowledge/agree" with God's perspective about their sins and have a settled recognition and acknowledgment that one is a sinner in need of cleansing and forgiveness. I'm sure there are people who may have walked the aisle at church in the past and prayed the sinners prayer believing that just because they recited that prayer (even though there was no genuine repentance and faith) that they are now safe and secure no matter how much they live like the devil. Such people demonstrate a bogus conversion.

In regards to 1 John 1:9, notice that - If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (vs. 9) is IN CONTRAST TO - If we say that we have no sin, (present tense) we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us (vs. 8) and - If we say that we have not sinned, (past tense) we make him a liar, and his word is not in us (vs. 10). 1 John 1:9 is not about confessing each and every sin that we commit as we commit them" (keep a specific inventory) as an "additional requirement" to "remain cleansed" and "if we forget a sin we are toast," as some teach.

It's scriptural when properly understood. The real danger is with false conversions.

You seem to be absolutely obsessed with attacking the OSAS doctrine. Prior to my conversion several years ago while still attending the Roman Catholic church, I too opposed the OSAS doctrine and lived in fear and bondage to IN-security, which only resulted in misery. I've noticed ALL false religions and cults that teach salvation by works also strongly oppose OSAS, which has always been a red flag for me.

Simple deduction from your assertion.

.. ,,and no need to set me free ...already free in Christ by the truth of eternal assurance and security.

Interesting ...cults are about control....so makes sense they would make salvation an earned reward.

Awwwe @mailmandan I am so happy you find my comments useful...imagine life without wrenches.

And I will not drop the "r" in that word.

My 2020 resolution to be more comical!!