Not By Works

Who does GOD chasten and why?

The evidence is HIS SPIRIT bearing WITNESS with OUR SPIRIT.....obviously to deep for you to grasp because you are blending faith and works which saves NO ONE

AGAIN....his premise is false....THE SPIRIT bears WITNESS with our spirit.......and GOD ONLY chastens SONS....a SON being chastened is DISOBEDIENT....his premise falls short or completely accurate

Don't let these clowns and jokers get you down migo......their judgement lingereth not.....they will pay for devaluing JESUS and lifting themselves by peddling a self saving self sustained losable salvtion

By your own dogma RALPH, you state clearly that you don't understand it......

YAWN>>>>>>>>>>conflating scriptures out of context..........more drivel!

You just compared him to a bug....Interesting....BUGS come to the LIGHT......unlike salvation losers, workers for and Cainologists which elevate themselves above JESUS while devaluing JESUS......Catholic dogma saves NO ONE

hahahahahahhahhahahhahahha -->Pookie <-----HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

Then you hate the word of GOD.....end of story....and a child of GOD would not say such a thing.......

Right here folks is an open admission to hating God's word....ALL that are HONEST can read this and conclude this poster HATES the truth and OPPOSES the truth....THE bible is clear.....and you wonder why we call you clowns, jokers, salvation losers, workers for, cainologists....

WHERE sin abounds GRACE abounds the more

HAHAHAHH ROSE waxes poetically hilarious HAHAHHAHAH

These clowns will weep and beg JESUS one day.....BUT LORDDDDD, LORDDDDDD have WE NOT DONE..........in your NAME.....PLEASE....we are BEGGING YOU.............!!!

It is all JESUS, and ALL glory goes to GOD or it is SATANIC seeking to steal the GLORY from GOD and a right to BOAST!

Ding ding ding ding we have a winner............although they will deny it

We all know why......either LIE or just keep one's mouth shut avoids the whole issue....same verbiage of RALPH and same false stance......either RALPH or his twin brother Ralphie.......!!!!

OH he knows and yet opposes the truth tooth and nail by embracing catholic dogma.....the same ole self sustaining self saving working for dogma and a salvation that can be lost

I carry plenty of AMMO.......and would light them all up.....head shots drops them like a sack of "taters" HAHA

Wisdom is justified of her children.......JESUS will laugh in the day of his calamity......let it roll off the back and consider the source.......a salvation loser that devalues JESUS, grace, faith and the eternal salvation/justification given to men by faith.

You do a good job Once.....and thank you for the lateral freedom to defend the truth with a little heat and sarcasm migo.....We mostly try to keep it calm and as I have said many times...I can deal with anything except having what I say skewed and twisted or when one misrepresents the truth about me or flat lies.......

My problem is the Marine in me wants to come out and play.....I try, I really do.......

Thanks Brother and sorry for all the flak we cause you migo

You know, I believe that GOD put me on this thread for a reason.
And that seems to be to answer questions from people WHO DO NOT KNOW much more about OSAS than their Superstitions.
And Yes we Born Again Believers are going Serve HIM in Priesthood in the 1000 Year Kingdom.
And OUT OF LOVE FOR GOD we offer up Spiritual Sacrifices NOW and FOREVER as an ACT OF LOVE.

1 Corinthians 2:12-14 (NIV)
12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Revelation 5:9-10 (GWT)
9 Then they sang a new song, “You deserve to take the scroll and open the seals on it, because you were slaughtered. You bought people with your blood to be God's own. They are from every tribe, language, people, and nation.
10 You made them a kingdom and priests for our God. They will rule as kings on the earth.”


In the above Verses, it appears to be referring to Every True Believer of all TIME.
And in the below Verse It seems to be ONLY ISRAEL. Since you MUST READ IT IN CONTEXT. He then is talking about only ISRAEL,
in 1 Pet. 2:5.


1 Pet 2:9 (NRSV)
9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, in order that you may proclaim the mighty acts of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.


However I believe we too will be Priests in the KINGDOM serving HIM, but not those who Serve In the Temple itself during that 1000 Year Kingdom. THAT may have been why the ONLY VERSE with the WORD ROYAL ahead of Priesthood, is 1 Peter 2:9. If you look at other verses that says in the 1000 Year Kingdom, we will serve as Priests, the ROYAL is missing. So that Could be the distinction, O.T. Saints Serve in the Temple itself, and we Serve Outside of the Temple. Do not tune me out, hear my reasoning for that.


Revelation 20:4-6 (CSBBible)
4 Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge. I also saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted the mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed.
This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.


Now their everyone in the First Resurrection, they will be Priests in the KINGDOM. So if we are Not the PRIESTS actually in the TEMPLE, what will be our JOB ? ? ? I can only speculate, however one of the things the PRIESTS DID Outside of the Temple, was to Teach the People. We will be in our immortal Bodies, but the 144,000 go into the KINGDOM in their MORTAL Bodies, and they will have lots of Children. I think GOD wants to have them experiencing the GARDEN of Eden in the PERFECT world environment. I believe when Jesus makes over the War Torn earth and God's Plagues on it, and IT WILL BE PERFECT, like the Garden of Eden. NOW, the Children of the 144,000, will NEVER have experienced anything but a PERFECT environment. HOW LIKELY WILL THEY TO BE TO TAKE EVERYTHING HE HAS PROVIDED, FOR GRANTED! NOW teaching them to be THANKFUL, could possibly be our FULL TIME JOB. And many will join Satan's rebellion in the END, just before the NEW ATMOSPHERE (New Heaven), and EARTH COMES.

I know lots of theologians will think my assessment of 1 Pet. 2:9 is not right. But Most have not picked up on fact, JESUS NEVER USED THE WORD CHURCH. That word came in to BEING after the ASSEMBLY started calling itself, CHURCH, around 200 A.D. You all can look up the GREEK WORD, and it ONLY meant ASSEMBLY at the time it was written.

How Important is changing a single WORD?

Matthew 16:18 (YLT)
18 `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;

John 10:14-16 (HCSB)
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know My own sheep, and they know Me, [Notice: Past Tense Verbiage when the Birthday of the Church is not until the Day of Pentecost after HIS Ascension. These People are the last of the O.T. ASSEMBLY.]
15 as the Father knows Me, and I know the Father. I lay down My life for the sheep.
16 But I have other sheep that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will listen to My voice.
Then there will be one flock, one shepherd.

THEN - When? At the Rapture, there will be ONE and Only ONE ASSEMBLY.

O.T. ASSEMBLY Believed Messiah would come.

N.T. ASSEMBLY Believed Messiah did come, and He is JESUS CHRIST.

Below is an excerpt from one of my commentaries. It simplifies what are spiritual sacrifices, and it should motivate us to go to Church.
Notice their is NO Sacrifice for SIN. WHY? JESUS PAID it ALL. SALVATION of our Human Spirit is already COMPLETE. And we have a guarantee THAT HE WILL FINISH our Sanctification at the RESURRECTION.

Philippians 1:6 (HCSB)
6 I am sure of this, that He who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.


You still have your SUPERSTITIONS about OSAS.
They Too are just plain Phony.

God as my witness, I don't have an ounce of anger regarding God's grace.
Justification is by faith in Jesus' blood for the forgiveness of sin, not by performing meritorious works.
There's nothing in that to be angry about.
In fact, the Bible calls it the good news.

So, what's your take on people who stop believing?
Were they ever saved to begin with?
Do they lose their salvation?
Of do they continue to be saved as if they still believed?