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Take your pick (Hebrew and Greek):
Word: D@HG
Pronounce: khat-taw-aw'
Strong: H2403
Orig: or chattacth \i khat-tawth'\i0\plain\f3\fs21\cf23 ; from 2398; an offence (sometimes habitual sinfulness), and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, or expiation; also (concretely) an offender:--punishment (of sin), purifying(-fication for sin), sin(-ner, offering). H2398
Use: TWOT-638e Noun Feminine
Grk Strong: G49 G93 G265 G266 G458 G763 G2434 G2588 G3152
1) sin, sinful
2) sin, sin offering
2a) sin
2b) condition of sin, guilt of sin
2c) punishment for sin
2d) sin-offering
2e) purification from sins of ceremonial uncleanness
Word: amartia
Pronounce: ham-ar-tee'-ah
Strongs Number: G266
Orig: from 264; a sin (properly abstract):--offence, sin(-ful). G264
Use: TDNT-1:267,44 Noun Feminine
Heb Strong: H817 H1870 H2248 H2398 H2403 H2483 H2932 H4284 H4878 H5771 H5931 H5949 H6586 H6588 H7200 H7561 H8441
1) equivalent to G264
1a) to be without a share in
1b) to miss the mark
1c) to err, be mistaken
1d) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
1e) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin
2) that which is done wrong, sin, an offence, a violation of the divine law in thought or in act
3) collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a single person or by many
For Synonyms see entry G5879
Word: D@HG
Pronounce: khat-taw-aw'
Strong: H2403
Orig: or chattacth \i khat-tawth'\i0\plain\f3\fs21\cf23 ; from 2398; an offence (sometimes habitual sinfulness), and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, or expiation; also (concretely) an offender:--punishment (of sin), purifying(-fication for sin), sin(-ner, offering). H2398
Use: TWOT-638e Noun Feminine
Grk Strong: G49 G93 G265 G266 G458 G763 G2434 G2588 G3152
1) sin, sinful
2) sin, sin offering
2a) sin
2b) condition of sin, guilt of sin
2c) punishment for sin
2d) sin-offering
2e) purification from sins of ceremonial uncleanness
Word: amartia
Pronounce: ham-ar-tee'-ah
Strongs Number: G266
Orig: from 264; a sin (properly abstract):--offence, sin(-ful). G264
Use: TDNT-1:267,44 Noun Feminine
Heb Strong: H817 H1870 H2248 H2398 H2403 H2483 H2932 H4284 H4878 H5771 H5931 H5949 H6586 H6588 H7200 H7561 H8441
1) equivalent to G264
1a) to be without a share in
1b) to miss the mark
1c) to err, be mistaken
1d) to miss or wander from the path of uprightness and honour, to do or go wrong
1e) to wander from the law of God, violate God's law, sin
2) that which is done wrong, sin, an offence, a violation of the divine law in thought or in act
3) collectively, the complex or aggregate of sins committed either by a single person or by many
For Synonyms see entry G5879
Yet another example of how I know that you are correct and my devotion to the One who saved me out of all my sins and gave me of His Spirit am in error: You are SO like Christ. Indeed, you are a little Christ, a little "anointed one" - a "Christian". O, my despair at 24 wasted years in His service and in sweet fellowship with Him, abiding in His Word which I love! Now I know that it must not have been His Spirit ministering to me - must not have been Him who took me out of all that depravity . What a fool I have been!
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At any point in time you see maybe 50 members online, but over 2000 guests who read these threads at the same time. Its not trying to convince those I/we debate with. If that were the case it would be dust the feet and move on to the next town (website 
). No, its about presenting the truth. To those God calls, truly calls, they need to compare and the Holy Spirit will draw out those that are His.
So keep it going!
). No, its about presenting the truth. To those God calls, truly calls, they need to compare and the Holy Spirit will draw out those that are His.So keep it going!
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Actually? I think he likes ya man!
But, after it filters through his fingers?
It just comes out jeaously!
"So many "flatterers, with flattery's!"
So little time!
But, after it filters through his fingers?
It just comes out jeaously!
"So many "flatterers, with flattery's!"
So little time!
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Your first line in response to @dcontroversal was ..."you cannot substantiate your view from scripture"
Seems clear to me.
Seems clear to me.
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And, it is good that you do!
Now ya gotta ask yerself: "Believe to mature spiritually, and teach?"
Or, "Believe to remain saved, not mature spiritually, and be taught?"
Far as sabbath keeping, or any of the other laws of Moses I may make mention of?
It doesn't bother me AT ALL, that you don't keep a sabbath!
That's between you and the Lord your God!
What bothers me, is that it bothers you so much, that I do.
Which is between me, and the Lord MY God!
And when questioned about it? Responding with: "Well?"...."Kinda comes with the territory."
And, posting verses pertaining to how it is I got to "that territory?"
I can't FORCE you, or anyone else, to replace "the wisdom of man", for the "knowledge of God."
That's something God has to do!
All one HAS to do? Is lean not on your own, or any other mans' wisdom, or interpretation, or understanding. Sounds pretty simple and easy don't it?
Cuz, when God "does a WORK in one?" It is called a "strange work" by God, in Isaiah.
Now ya gotta ask yerself: "Believe to mature spiritually, and teach?"
Or, "Believe to remain saved, not mature spiritually, and be taught?"
Far as sabbath keeping, or any of the other laws of Moses I may make mention of?
It doesn't bother me AT ALL, that you don't keep a sabbath!
That's between you and the Lord your God!
What bothers me, is that it bothers you so much, that I do.
Which is between me, and the Lord MY God!
And when questioned about it? Responding with: "Well?"...."Kinda comes with the territory."
And, posting verses pertaining to how it is I got to "that territory?"
I can't FORCE you, or anyone else, to replace "the wisdom of man", for the "knowledge of God."
That's something God has to do!
All one HAS to do? Is lean not on your own, or any other mans' wisdom, or interpretation, or understanding. Sounds pretty simple and easy don't it?
Cuz, when God "does a WORK
in one?" It is called a "strange work" by God, in Isaiah. -
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