Jonah Died and went to Hell

Luke 16:24-26
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.


The dead have no reward.

The dead cannot pass between Sheol and Abrahams Bosom and vice versa, What's your point?

Actually, all souls have a reward. We just need to keep in mind which type of reward the context is referring to.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that you can't understand.

The dead can receive no reward.


Did Jonah receive a reward when he was in Sheol?

YES. He was delivered. Therefore, he was not dead.

Did the rich guy receive a reward when he was in hell?

No. He was dead. He could receive no reward.

I think it's HIS works that HE works through our faith GOD bless as HE sees FIT .

I tell you right now, that WE BETTER MAKE ,THE WHOLE bible OUR WHOLE CORNERSTONE , it'S ALL ABOUT JESUS , THE WHOLE BIBLE ,
IT'S GODs WORD and we best live by it . Man should not live by bread along , But by every word of GOD , The bread being JESUS ,HE is the bread of LIFE ,.GOD BLESS as HE sees fit . And give us the understanding of HIS WORD .

Sorry no offence. Just sharing.. not a salvation issue. More of like how can we hear and therefore seek his approval as he longingly commands each of us to? How do we rightly divide from faith (the unseen spiritual) to the same?. I am not saying I hear better just differently like fingerprints in one way.

God is not a man as us .He cannot die. Rather like Lazarus or other types. like Elijah they would seem to be used as a shadow of Christ as the Son of man and the father working as one.

Lazarus . . Dead asleep, in a answer to their complaint. He is dead. . confused the disciples who as it would seem did not mix what they heard as saw (the gospel) With faith and mixing as it is defined in 1 Corinthians 4:18 . They accused the Son of man of waiting to long. . He was defining the death of a saint as it related to the flesh. It is why they were to remove the grave cloths and not him. The glory belongs to Father not seen our one Master. the glory reflected in the Son of man not of him. remember God is not a man and neither is there a fleshly infallible interpret set between the eternal things of God not seen and temporal mankind seen. I think we should be careful how we hear. reminds me of Luke and the question.

When he comes on the last day "will he find his faith working in men or men walking after the temporal corrupted? The lust of the eyes and the lust of the flesh .....pride producers. .

I would think it our responsibility to love one another in hope of removing that which binds us to things seen ,when and if we do mix faith . God working in us to both will and do his good pleasure with us to me is the good news, or gospel.

Psalm 16:10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Hell, a living suffering of ones living soul.

No power is attributed to the flesh of the Son of man, Jesus. But only to the unseen the "spirit of holiness". It would appear no such thing as "holiness of the corrupted flesh" Jesus said His flesh profits it for nothing. It is the unseen Spirit that can give birth to spirits.

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV)Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Not by his birth but the death as dead asleep by the resurrection from the dead the mutual work of the father and Son. Can't have one without the other . :

The seed of david the seed of the flesh of mankind. The seed of Christ the spiritual seed of God who is eternal Spirit .

Jesus as living suffering suffered the pang of hell for three day beginning in the garden .(In a tomb Not under ground) The father answers to his request three times as shown in the garden demonstration . The father breathed spirit life into the Son of man, Jesus. . .in jeopardy of His own Spirit . Strengthening Jesus three times to finish the mutual work of both. That describes the antichrists. They have neither.

Again the garden the outward demonstration of the work of the Spirit is a good foundation.. At the beginning of the three day work when he began his suffering "unto death" (not dead) as a living work called the heart of the earth or the belly of the whale .

It is shown by that fact that Jesus as he suffered the wage of our sin as the wrath of the father .The Son of man was sweating as if it was literal blood using . . "sweat was as it were great drops of blood" to show a parable is in view. as if it was literal blood.

Literal blood that has life in it represent the unseen spirit weat is used that way in other parables also to show the work of the Spirit.

Some maintain literal blood was what the sweat was made of. Not mixing faith

Again suffering "unto death" not dying as in no spirit life.

And he was withdrawn from them about a stone's cast, and kneeled down, and prayed, Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground. And when he rose up from prayer, and was come to his disciples, he found them sleeping for sorrow,Luke 22:41-45

Yes our new born again faith that comes form hearing. . called the hearing of faith. His words working in us giving us ears to faithfully hear Him.

Could you please explain the difference between the Hebrew Sheol, the Greek hades and the KJV hell? Thanks. Every one has been avoiding this question.

It took you two days to say that first part? When you said you were doing housework and couldn't address my simple question?

OK.
If you're not sure what I'm asking why would you answer at all? Why wouldn't you ask for clarification?

I posted about Matthew 12. Unfortunately there are those who don't believe what it says. Nothing can be done about that really.

You have a red Husky? Those are rare aren't they?
They don't grow back? I did not know this. I found that picture and posted it in full in one of the humor threads. https://www.pinterest.de/search/pin...rm_meta[]=shaved|typed&term_meta[]=husy|typed

Dear Whispered, can you please clarify....and I will respond as time permits.
EH

You know with housework one small job can lead to multiple other things...however, I will try to focus on BDF solely for the next 24 hours.

Hades . . mythology, god of the underworld.

Sheol ......the place of the those dead in their trespasses and sin without hope and without God. Revealed daily by the wrath of God, a dying creation

Hell the living suffering of a dying corrupted creation. they suffer unto death not literaly dead. without a spirit the breath of life. Those under the curse of the earth that drinks the corrupted blood .Like Abel's corrupted blood that cries out to be delivered from the deceitful heart the earth . Abel did have the sabbath rest. Cain with no sabbath rest in Christ. suffered a punishment Cain could not perform having no rest by believing God He suffered day and night until he died. His temporal spirit departed and returned the father of spirits. His flesh body returns same place as Abel's returning to the dust. Cain's blood does not cry out to be clothed with a new body. He will not rise on the last . Nothing to rise to or rise with.

"For as Jonah was a sign unto the Ninevites, so shall also the Son of Man be to this generation." The Book of Luke chapter 11:30.

In Exegesis studies we should note that Sheol was first. Sheol became Hell, as Christians understand Hell to be, far later.
Both believer and non-believer enter Sheol after life.

Sheol

The Hebrew word "Sheol" is often translated "hell" in the English versions. However this gives the wrong inference. It is never used of the final destination of the wicked. Sheol is used in Old Testament in basically five ways:

1. The unseen realm of the dead

2. The grave - the actual place where bodies are buried

3. Specifically, the place of punishment for the wicked

4. Symbolically

5. The place from where the righteous are saved

Context Determines

Sometimes the exact meaning of Sheol is hard to determine - it can overlap these categories. Consequently it is essential to check out the context to find the correct meaning of Sheol each time it is used.

1. The Unseen Realm Of The Dead

Sheol generally means the unseen realm of the dead, the present state of death. Both the godly and ungodly go to Sheol in this sense of the term. When used in this way, there is no idea of a place of judgment or condemnation. It is, for example, the place where the righteous Jacob would go.



Sheol was also the place where sinners would end up.


In common speech this refers to the grave - not the literal burying place of the dead but rather the realm of the death. The New International Version normally translates Sheol as "grave." It is usually with the sense of the realm of the dead.

2. Grave

Not only does Sheol figuratively represent the grave, it can also refer to the actual physical place where the literal bodies of the dead are buried.


Jacob said.


In this instance, Sheol could refer either to the actual grave or merely the realm of the dead.

3. Place Of Punishment For Wicked


Often Sheol is used of the temporary place of judgment for the wicked. It is the place where God's anger burns against unbelievers.

Spiritual Death

Sheol is a place of spiritual death, or separation from God.



Insatiable Appetite
mediate state, it will come to an end someday. [Continues]

That’s about as clear as mud. I still have no idea what is Sheol. And what about hades? They define hell all wrong. Hell, as defined by the KJV, is not the permanent place of unbelievers. The lake of fire is the permanent place. Hell is cast into the lake of fire.

the male looks alot like ours

we had him out today...he's rusty with his manners..my left arm is 2 inches longer

I had him in obedience and he did very well, it's really my fault for not keeping up so I better get to it

yup ... red and white but they are not really rare

here he is, mr handsome himself



the double coat on this breed actually insulates from cold and heat. when they shed, it's the undercoat coming out

shaving does nothing but harm the coat but people will do what they do

the coat will grow but most likely will never be as nice as it was

Sheol is Grave or Pit
Hadesis the grave or the place of the dead
Gehenna is Valley of Hinnom or hell