That Hebrews 10v26 Thread

Enlighten me

No. You have had enough.

Your focus is always on the negative. Your focus is always on sin rather than Grace. A tree is known by it’s fruit. You’re here obviously judging people in your heart so just say it. Name names.

They read scripture in a spirit of condemnation... how can those eyes see and then understand grace.
Not possible.

Hebrews 10v25b has a little treasure which has escaped scrutiny up until now. Since v26 is a verse with much substance, and many bibles make a paragraph split at this point, we can be forgiven for missing quite an important connection with verse 25b.

Lets look at it:
v25b but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
>Exhorting means (Strongs 3870 http://www.godrules.net/library/strongs2b/gre3870.htm)

1. 1) to call to one's side, call for, summon
   2) to address, speak to, (call to, call upon), which may be done in the way of exhortation, entreaty, comfort, instruction, etc.
   2a) to admonish, exhort
   2b) to beg, entreat, beseech
   2b1) to strive to appease by entreaty
   2c) to console, to encourage and strengthen by consolation, to comfort
   2c1) to receive consolation, be comforted
   2d) to encourage, strengthen
   2e) exhorting and comforting and encouraging
   2f) to instruct, teach

>Its believers calling upon other believers to remain steadfast and strong in the face of opposition.
>It implores this all the more as we see the Day approaching. This Day, known as the Day of the Lord, 1 of the most significant and important days in history. It is when God wraps everything up that has happened on this planet. It is the final accounting of everything, where sheep and goats are separated, with eternal consequences for both.
>What is Paul imploring the church to do? The Exhort one another. To check in with one another. To rebuke one another. To encourage one another.
>WHY?
For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth...….
>This word "For" is a direct link, and implication, that unfolds from verse 25b.
>And yes --- these are all believers.

Yet whosoever sinneth has not seen HIM or known HIM.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1Jn 3:4-8 KJV)

Then no one has seen Him.....obvious you have missed completely what John is stating here.

Your focus is always on the negative. Your focus is always on sin rather than Grace. A tree is known by it’s fruit. You’re here obviously judging people in your heart so just say it. Name names.

if you have nothing in rebuttal to the op say nothing. Why are you making it personal?
Toes hurt?

You feel better, pussycat?

So you are not here to talk about the op Just people. Ok.....by....

Ahh - well actually the verb (participle) for "sinning" is a "present" tense in the Greek. The present tense means ongoing, continued action.

Let's take a walk in Hebrew chapter 10 starting in verse 4

For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore (because it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sin) when he (Christ) cometh into the world, he (Christ) saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me (the Word was made flesh): In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I (I the writer or us for that matter. For we were made to be in HIS image and likeness), Lo, I (we) come (in the volume of the book (the human instruction manuel, the Bible) it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when He (HE being Christ) said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein (Because there was a constant rememberance of sin every year because they could never take away sin vs.3 so neither has HE had any pleasure in); which are offered by the law; Then said he (Christ), Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second (purging our conscience (who we are, our inner man), a sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh from dead works (the taking away of sin, dead works, acts the cause death) to serve the Living God. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves (us) with better sacrifices than these. Heb 9:14,13 21-23)

By the which will we are sanctified (purged conscience, a sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh from dead works, the taking away of sin to serve the Living God) through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins (purge our conscience, who we are our inner being) : But this man (Christ), after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof (to this perfectedness) the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant (perfectedness of them that are sanctified) that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(Heb 10:4-16 KJV)

To "sin willfully" in the Greek carries the idea of deliberate intention that is habitual, which stems from rejecting Christ deliberately.

If the word 'sanctified' in Hebrews 10:29 is used to describe saved people who lost their salvation as eternal IN-securists teach, then we have a contradiction because the writer of Hebrews in verse 10 said "sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all"

A non-Christian can be "set apart" from other non-Christians without experiencing salvation

Look, the scriptures have been translated. where do you get "habitually" from the greek? I scanned a few translations and I have not found one that has "habitually" in this passage.