Why is this not being taught in Church?

I understand the phrases difer .One having to do with men the temporal seen and the other Son on God having to do with the things of God. God is not a man as us. That would be what the father of lies would say . proved it using Peter in Mathew 16:22-23 : The rebuke was peter get behind me Satan why worship in respect to the things of men seen rather than the things of God not seen?

Yes they share one Spirit as the essence of life. One work of faith as if it was two . One attribute as the Son of man the temporal seen. and one as the Son of God our high priest without beginning of days or end of Spirit life not seen. Two working as one. Establishing the government of God . The one demonstration in the flesh is over. God is not a man as us. Never could be.

Then you simply literalize away the signified understanding as those who walk by sight ?

My point is that the disciples were not preaching Paul’s gospel, the gospel of the d,b,r for sins. The messages were not the same.

If you went around preaching what the disciples preached, no one would or could get saved.

any individual not having fully understood what was taking place, what was about to take place, or what had taken place does not make a second gospel magically appear. He point blank told them that He was going to be handed over and crucified and that it must be so, and they had no clue what He was saying until it happened. that doesn't make 'repent the kingdom is upon you!' a different gospel than 'repent the kingdom is upon you! and here are the details of it!'

one King, one kingdom, one gospel.

The following prophecy is the good news of the kingdom. It’s a real thing. It’s not the gospel of the grace of God, the d,b,r. The gospel of the kingdom was at hand with the King at hand, within reach.

Luke 1
67 And his father Zacharias was filled with the Holy Ghost, and prophesied, saying,
68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
69 And hath raised up an horn of salvation for us in the house of his servant David;
70 As he spake by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world began:
71 That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all that hate us;
72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember his holy covenant;
73 The oath which he sware to our father Abraham,
74 That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.

This is the promise of the restoration of the kingdom of Israel. It’s not talking about a spiritual salvation, but a physical salvation.

After the resurrection, the disciples were wearied because their promised King was crucified.

15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.
16 But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
17 And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad?
18 And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days?
19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

Redeemed Israel from their enemies so they could serve God without fear.

If anyone, even an angel teach another gospel

case closed

it's the oath He swore to Abraham, v. 73
same gospel.

Yep, that that’s would be a nation that would serve God without fear and be a light to the rest of the world. That’s good news if you’re a Jew.

Dodge. Deal with your adding to Scripture.

It is true that the flesh of man is corrupt. That's why verse 63 tells us, the flesh profiteth nothing because flesh is useless. This refers to mortal flesh. Jesus is the bread of life, His flesh is divine, not corrupted. Which would not be the case had He been born through a woman who's anatomy was subject to her sin nature.
The first sinner saved was Mary, and by the same method God's free irrevocable gift of grace brought into the world. Highly favored, is grace filled. Which is the same thing as referring in scripture later to those who are the Elect of God.

Flesh = σάρξ (sarx)
Strong: G4561
GK: G4922
flesh, Lk. 24:39; Jn. 3:6; the human body, 2 Cor. 7:5; flesh, human nature, human frame, Jn. 1:13, 14; 1 Pet. 4:1; 1 Jn. 4:2; kindred, Rom. 11:14; lineage, Rom. 1:3; 9:3; flesh, humanity, human beings, Mt. 24:22; Lk. 3:6; Jn. 17:2; the circumstances of the body, material condition, 1 Cor. 5:5; 7:28; Phlm. 16; flesh, mere humanity, human fashion, 1 Cor. 1:26; 2 Cor. 1:17; flesh as the seat of passion and frailty, Rom. 8:1, 3, 5; carnality, Gal. 5:24; materiality, material circumstance, as opposed to the spiritual, Phil. 3:3, 4; Col. 2:18; a material system or mode, Gal. 3:3; Heb. 9:10
See everywhere sarx appears in the New Testament via teknia.com.


The Saint Apostle Paul spoke of this as well. "...the glory of heavenly bodies is one of a kind, and the glory of earthly bodies is another...." It is why Jesus said if we do not consume His flesh we have no life in us. Because our life, our flesh, cannot save us. In other wording, there is nothing we can do to save ourselves in this life, in this body, because we are doomed as imperfect vessels from the beginning. Subject to disappointing God, sinning. And as a consequence we cannot take that nature and turn it around of our own accord and save ourselves from that state of being. We have to turn to the perfect Savior born for the task of Saving the world.
1 Corinthians 15:50

He didn't add to scripture. He simply knows that one chapter in The Book is sustained and is often elaborated upon by another. It is all God's words after all.

Jesus was knitted together in Mary's womb as one who was highly favored by God and grace filled, saved from her sins, for the task. Everything about Mary as the mother of the Christ was purified , grace anointed, by God before the Holy Spirit covered her and brought forth His Spirit and flesh that would be Messiah Emmanuel, "God with us".
You have to remember that all things are of God, and no thing that exists is other. God created Mary by creating Adam and Eve in the beginning, and from all that He had created prior. The dirt, or dust of the ground, and the bone, the strong firm structure that carries the weaker softer tissues about the face of this earth.
Jesus being conceived into the womb of a grace filled, sinless woman, because her sins were washed away by God's grace being she was highly favored for this task she chose to undertake, was never once present in anything corrupt. And being He was woven together by His own Spirit who is creator of all that is, was, or shall be, Jesus was then the son of man, because man cannot look upon the face of God and live, and the son of God, because He was God who created Himself in the form of a man so as to bring the new covenant with man to the world. Hard to teach the Gospel when the people you intend to save cannot look upon your face as you teach the Gospel.
Jesus was the fulfillment of the prophecy of the Jewish Messiah. He lived as a Jew, followed the law, as would be expected of Him, and did deliver the promise His people had awaited for generations; Salvation.

Don't think Jesus was like you and me at birth. His "earthen vessel" subject to a sin nature. That's actually blasphemy because that is then saying God is a sinner.

He believes that the flesh of Jesus was corrupted by sin and so he added "corrupted" when he paraphrased the verse.

I didn't know you could put the word of God through a meat grinder and have baloney come out the other end

but you have managed to do it

I also did not know that sunstroke was permanent

stay in the shade

Only the blood of Jesus washes away sins. Grace alone doesn't do it; that would be a corruption of God's justice. Mary was not sinless.

Your meaning is unclear here. If it were not possible for Jesus to sin, then His temptation was a sham, which makes God a liar.

To elaborate on what John146 is saying, believing in Jesus in the Gospel of the Kingdom means believing as what John 20:31 states, that he is the Christ and the Son of God.

Peter believed that (Matthew 16:16), Martha also believed that (John 11:27), the Ethiopian also believed that (Acts 8:37 KJV). Together with water baptism, that was all it took to be considered saved then.

But the time for that gospel has passed, now its about believing in Jesus's DBR.

I like the blue ones.

Does Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God as the Son of God have flesh ? Is God a man as us ?

What's unfortunate in your belief system is that you think too little of God. God can do anything. And when Mary was highly favored in God's grace, redeemed of her sins, so as to conceive Jesus, that's just the way it is. God redeemed Mary before Jesus was born to redeem the world.


I knew sooner or later someone would start the line, was Jesus sinless? Inevitable. Your statement is very clear, you blaspheme God who was also Jesus. You're trying to say God could be tempted to sin. Because Jesus was God. You fail to realize that and that is why your theology is wrong.