The way of our Lord Jesus Christ

Just another false accuser, lol I see why you stopped responding.

Every single post of his I have read contained one or more

false accusations
assumptions
strawmen
objectively incorrect statement


I will follow your lead.🙄

People like that will always try to get the last word. Fruitless.

You show your lack of love for truth so openly....

2 timothy 3
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.




Psalms 82:3

“Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.”


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2555. chamas ►
chamas: violence, wrong

There need not be a drop of malice, in physically defending a child from a rapist.


Wouldn't qualify as how violence was used in scripture.

So in the case of someone breaking into your home and attacks your family, what should a Christian do?

I’m seriously asking. Not mocking the thread.

In the NT believers never used violence to defend themselves. They moved out of the way. The destruction of Jerusalem a classic example when Jesus told them to flee, not fight.

So in the case of someone breaking into your home and attacks your family, what should a Christian do? Specifically a Christian father who is seeing his family being attacked.

I’m seriously asking. Not mocking the thread.

First, the destruction of Jerusalem took place after all the books of Scripture had been written, so you have no example at all. Secondly, the believers did not leave Jerusalem to avoid responding violently; rather, they left because Jesus had warned them to flee from the coming destruction.

But under the new covenant, they did exactly what the Sermon on the Mount calls for.

You should try to take the place of the victims and die if necessary. And be willing to suffer violence without resorting to it. There are many alternatives that enable you to love your enemies and stop them as you would have others do unto you if you were them.

So, three men with guns, broke into your place while all your family was asleep, and tell you that they are going to rape your wife and your children and kill them afterward, you would still do nothing but die instead even you had a chance to stop them? If you die, your wife and children, who are helpless and can't defend themselves, will have to pay and suffer consequences, i.e., being brutally raped and get killed, because you chose not to protect them when you had a chance. Did I summarize your stance correctly?

I'll take that as yes then?
According to your own version of what it means to love your enemy, in that particular situation I described, you should do nothing and let things happen?

This shows you think only in terms of violence. Do you have a gun? The peaceful soul thinks of other solutions.

How can we proclame his word to love our enemy, if we carry guns and are ready to kill our enemys?

While I agree, and I would personally suffer consequence for not resorting to violence, but not to the point of letting things happen because I failed to take action. The situation I described is very realistic and happens all the time.

I want to see how far you are willing to stick to your belief.
Again, is your answer yes or no?
I don't own a gun.

There is a huge difference between wanting to kill others (as a murderer) and carrying a gun (or a weapon) for self defense, or the protection of loved ones. And people should be trained to effectively disable an assailant rather than kill them. These are not necessarily "enemies" since they do not even know their victims.

We have seen many news stories when an innocent homeowner was confronted by a home invader or a criminal and was forced to defend himself or herself. Had they been without a weapon they would have been dead and robbed. You can't show love to anyone if you are lying in a morgue, and your wife and children have been violated.

At one point even Jesus told His disciples to carry a sword. In those days people traveled on roads infested by bandits. Therefore they needed to protect themselves. Sometimes even the presence of a weapon acts as a deterrent.

How do we know unless put to the test? I know this, not a sparrow drops to the ground without the Father. But how many deny Christ planning violence that might never happen?

If you ask me the same question, my answer is I will do whatever it takes to defend my family, including having to kill the intruders, because it's my job. It is one thing to shoot and killing a teenager who broke in to steal, it is another to just sit and do nothing when it is so foreseeable that it is my family who will suffer consequences if I don't act.