The Holy Spirit in Acts according to Acts

My OP shows exactly what scripture says without adding to it.

Where does scripture expand John the Baptists' words in Acts?

12 were present and received what John said they would. Jesus later told the 12 they would receive the baptism. Phillip was one of several the apostles laid hands on, followed by his work with the same signs and wonders they did. Don't add to this or take away from God's word.

You simply place the cart before the horse. One is baptized unto eternal life the moment they believe on Christ and bid Him save them from their sins. The filling with power can happen at any time.

The primary focus and the primary purpose of Christ is on the moment of salvation not the filling with power to serve the Lord. Until we are His we can serve nothing but self.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Show me where the Bible says whether they spoke in tongues or not. How do you know? Were you there?

Can you show us from that Bible that this is what is meant by 'baptize you with the Holy Ghost...' in the Bible? In Acts, it is used of two times when the Spirit came and empowered people to speak in tongues.

Can you show us from the scriptures that baptism with the Holy Ghost refers to the quickening work rather than empowerment.

Can you show us where the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Spirit is called baptism with the Holy Spirit?

Thanks,

Oh sweet and wonderful @notuptome, get out of the boat! lol!

It is the Lord, and He bids you, "Come."

Enjoy fellowshiping with the Father, Son and Holy Spirit!

HEEEEELLLLLOOOOO? i just pointed out something that you added, when I wrote, "John the baptist said one coming after him would baptize with the Holy Ghost. He was not referring to the 12 apostles. The Bible does not say that the apostles gave Philip the Holy Spirit or the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. " You just quoted that.

You should either respond with specific scripture that says that the Holy Spirits gave Philip the gift of the Holy Spirit or concede the point. That does not make sense Biblically, since Jesus spoke of the Father giving the Holy Spirit to them that ask Him, and John prophesied that the One Who came after Him would baptize with the Holy Ghost. The apostles are not the givers in this case.



Read Matthew 3. John spoke the words to crowds from Judea. Matthew 3:5 says "Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan" went out to him. He had just addressed Pharisees and Saduecees, also. There is no mention of the 12 apostles in this passage. This was before Jesus designated 12 as apostles if Matthew is remotely chronological.


Don't add or take away from God's word.

Acts 6.
3 Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
4 But we will give ourselves continually to prayer, and to the ministry of the word.
5 And the saying pleased the whole multitude: and they chose Stephen, a man full of faith and of the Holy Ghost, and Philip, and Prochorus, and Nicanor, and Timon, and Parmenas, and Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch:
6 Whom they set before the apostles: and when they had prayed, they laid their hands on them.

Notice 'full of the Holy Ghost...' BEFORE the apostles laid hands on him.

I never read anything about them bringing snakes to Azusa Street. It is unlikely that any of those fellows in that picture ever went to Azusa Street.

Most Pentecostals, I'd venture to say well over 99.9% don't practice snake handling in church. People who work at zoos may attend. There are some churches up in the Appalachian mountains that practice snake handling.

If that is your theory, then you must feel rather dirty and sinful with all those theories of yours not backed up by scripture.

Jesus told the 12 and no others they would receive the baptism. They must have been with John.

So, I'm thinking that there were like.......120 people in that upper room on the Day of Pentecost....that's more than 12.....

.....and then there's the house of Cornelius...........and so on and so on.....

and besides, Peter said....

Acts 2:15-18 King James Version (KJV)
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Come on, @Dave-L - get out of the boat! The Lord bids you, "Come." Receive the Holy Spirit - be sealed, baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit! It's for you, too!

So, I'm thinking that there were like.......120 people in that upper room on the Day of Pentecost....that's more than 12.....

.....and then there's the house of Cornelius...........and so on and so on.....

and besides, Peter said....

Acts 2:15-18 King James Version (KJV)
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Come on, @Dave-L - get out of the boat! The Lord bids you, "Come." Receive the Holy Spirit - be sealed, baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit! It's for you, too!

Recheck your position. The 120 were at a different time and place.

Jesus told the 12 and no others they would receive the baptism. They must have been with John.

I did not call it the "baptism of John." It's the answer Apollos and the disciples gave.

Paul in Ephesus
19 While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them, “Did you receive the Holy Spirit when[b] you believed?”

They answered, “No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit.”

3 So Paul asked, “Then what baptism did you receive?”

“John’s baptism,” they replied.

Wrong again, Roger.

I am saying:

When we first get saved, we are SEALED with the Holy Spirit.

AFTER being sealed with the Holy Spirit, we are BAPTIZED with the Holy Spirit which is the FIRST time we are FILLED with the Holy Spirit.

AFTER being baptized with the Holy Spirit which is the first time we are filled with the Holy Spirit, we are to be CONTINUALLY FILLED with the Holy Spirit by reading, mediating, studying the scriptures, singing songs in our hearts to God, worshiping God in Spirit and in Truth, fellowshiping with other believers.....etc.....

Being FILLED with the Holy Spirit then becomes a daily choice, if we quench or grieve the Holy Spirit with our flesh then we end up backsliding.

We need to learn how to not neglect the Gift of the Holy Spirit, keep it stirred up so we can walk by the Spirit and not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

"If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”

"And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever."

"Now Jesus said the Father will give the holy Spirit to them that ask. Jesus says that He will pray the Fathe rand He will give you another helper. "

"He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
And he said to them, “Into what then were you baptized?” So they said, “Into John’s baptism.”
Then Paul said, “John indeed baptized with a baptism of repentance, saying to the people that they should believe on Him who would come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.”
When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them, and they spoke with tongues and prophesied."

This here is exactly how it happen to me. We believe John 3 16-17 we believe Rom 10 9-10.. a why not luke 13? Why not just ask as God said? Another verse I take just as He said it. And seen this happen every time someone asks. He kept His word.

This is all we have from scripture. No scripture = no faith, no faith = sin. We sin if we fill in the blanks with our own ideas.

Are we to believe that God can only act based on Scripture?

Jesus told the 12 and no others they would receive the baptism. They must have been with John.

Are we to believe that God can only act based on Scripture?